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  1. 31 May '18 22:47
    In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks His disciples "But who do YOU say I am"?

    How would you answer this question? And does your answer determine whether or not you are a Christian?

    Me: I am not sure. I try to believe He existed, and that He was divine, but it's difficult sometimes because of how long ago He lived, and that I must believe what the Bible tells.

    Is He God? I have much difficulty with that.

    But I'm curious to see how others here answer the question.

    Thanks.
  2. Standard member Rajk999
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    31 May '18 22:51
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks His disciples "But who do YOU say I am"?

    How would you answer this question? And does your answer determine whether or not you are a Christian?

    Me: I am not sure. I try to believe He existed, and that He was divine, but it's difficult sometimes because of how long ago He lived, and that I must believe what the Bible tell ...[text shortened]... difficulty with that.

    But I'm curious to see how others here answer the question.

    Thanks.
    The disciple Simon Peter answered the question.... so
    - why did you leave out the answer
    - why [clearly] do you not accept Peters answer?
  3. 31 May '18 22:51
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks His disciples "But who do YOU say I am"?

    How would you answer this question? And does your answer determine whether or not you are a Christian?

    Me: I am not sure. I try to believe He existed, and that He was divine, but it's difficult sometimes because of how long ago He lived, and that I must believe what the Bible tell ...[text shortened]... difficulty with that.

    But I'm curious to see how others here answer the question.

    Thanks.
    Jesus is Jehovah God incarnate, the veil of flesh, the invisible God made visible, the king of kings, the alpha and the omega and his name is exalted above all other names.

    Your difficulties are not exclusive to you, try not to worry about full understanding if it eludes you. God knows a person’s heart.
  4. 31 May '18 22:54
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    The disciple Simon Peter answered the question.... so
    - why did you leave out the answer
    - why [clearly] do you not accept Peters answer?
    Peter's reply was "Messiah, and Son of God".

    Neither of those is in line with Jesus being God.
  5. 31 May '18 22:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Peter's reply was "Messiah, and Son of God".

    Neither of those is in line with Jesus being God.
    Neither of those is in line with Jesus being God.

    Exactly the point
  6. 31 May '18 22:58
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Jesus is Jehovah God incarnate, the veil of flesh, the invisible God made visible, the king of kings, the alpha and the omega and his name is exalted above all other names.

    Your difficulties are not exclusive to you, try not to worry about full understanding if it eludes you. God knows a person’s heart.
    Jesus never made these claims Himself.
  7. Standard member Rajk999
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    31 May '18 23:00
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    [b]Neither of those is in line with Jesus being God.

    Exactly the point[/b]
    LOL ... Oh boy the man is moron.
    I think I better stay off this thread.
  8. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    31 May '18 23:02
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Peter's reply was "Messiah, and Son of God".

    Neither of those is in line with Jesus being God.
    Do you always look for an answer to a question where another question entirely is being answered?
  9. 31 May '18 23:02 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Jesus never made these claims Himself.
    They are all in the bible, but if you do not want to take the bible as your source and prefer to just focus on the documented words of Jesus then you have an extremely limited pool as Jesus didn’t write any of the bible himself and his words in it are relatively few.

    Your problem therefore is your choice of source material. Decide what material you want to accept as being the truth and go from there.

    All the best with it.
  10. 31 May '18 23:05
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Do you always look for an answer to a question where another question entirely is being answered?
    I'm not sure what you mean?

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus was God, and Jesus seemed okay with that.

    Why does our society want to change that fact?
  11. 31 May '18 23:05 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    LOL ... Oh boy the man is moron.
    I think I better stay off this thread.
    it doesn't seem fair to blame him for being confused by all the nonsense that Christians espouse. He simply doesn't know who to believe. Hopefully eventually he'll decide to believe the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry instead of the gospel preached by others.
  12. Standard member Rajk999
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    31 May '18 23:06
    Originally posted by @thinkofone
    it doesn't seem fair to blame him for being confused by all the nonsense that Christians espouse. He simply doesn't know who to believe. Hopefully eventually he'll decide to believe the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
    We he has been around here before with the very same questions... so it aint new.
    People do not accept the gospel preached by Christ. They rather dig into stuff they cannot understand and end up confusing themselves.
  13. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    31 May '18 23:07
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I'm not sure what you mean?

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus was God, and Jesus seemed okay with that.

    Why does our society want to change that fact?
    Jesus did not ask "who do I say I am?" He asked "who do YOU say I am?"
  14. 31 May '18 23:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Jesus never made these claims Himself.
    “I and the father are one”
    John 10:30

    “Anyone who has seen me, has seen the father”
    John 14:9

    Pretty clear by Jesus himself.
  15. Standard member Rajk999
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    31 May '18 23:08
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I'm not sure what you mean?

    Peter did NOT say that Jesus was God, and Jesus seemed okay with that.

    Why does our society want to change that fact?
    The is a completely different matter of why society does not accept the teachings of Christ. Many accept him with their mouth, and then proceed to change his doctrine and sideline his commandments