Originally posted by twhitehead I don't think that's true. I have a distrust of some Christians simply because they are Christian. I am biased towards certain denominations.
I believe that even in the US when a politician says they based their decisions on what God told them then a lot of people (even Christians) are critical of that. (both Bush and Palin have been criticized for that but maybe not by US news outlets).
I don't recall Palin ever saying she did something because God told her to
do it. But I don't follower her that closely, since I don't see her as a serious
contender for the presidency, as some do. Mitt Romney is probably the
most qualified of the Republican candidates, but he is not likely to have
a chance among conservative Christians since he is a Morman, which is
a Christian cult and is thought of in the same manner as the Jehovah's
Witnesses.
Originally posted by Kunsoo What was his "Muslim background" as a child, and what is your evidence that his "thinking is aligned with the Black Muslims of America," whatever that means?
Originally posted by RJHinds But he ran as a Christian, inspite of his muslim background as a child.
I don't doubt that much of his thinking is aligned with the Black Muslims
of America. He however, attended a Black Christian church headed by
a radical pastor, who preached hatred toward the White race.
Thanks for demonstrating my point. If half the population of the US doesn't seem to know the truth about the president and his religion (or even his nationality), then how come people say a non-Christian cant be elected?
All he needs to do is tell the republicans hes not Christian and before long half the country will believe the persistent rumours that he is a Christian in disguise.
Originally posted by twhitehead I stuck "Palin God" into Google and the first hits included things like:
Sarah Palin: God will help me decide what to do in 2012.
But when has she ever said, "God told me ........"?????
To : Buckky .... I agree with you... However, the US has still dis-regarded about 50% of its population... women. When will the US elect a lady President. Come on even small new democracies have lady Presidents.
To : Epiphineas... that was an excellent reply
My view is that.... IN GENERAL, a belief in God, usually entails a belief that God is Good which also enjoins one to a belief in morals, values, a code of ethics. So people know what to expect of a person who says that he believes in God.
Not so with an Atheist, who doesn't believe in God and is not bound to do good or bound by a set of commandments/ethics. Such a person would not be trusted by many.
One of the reasons why people don't join politics is because of all the corruption and manipulation that goes on in politics.
Originally posted by FMF I do not think he is preaching hatred. Why do you yourself say he is? Your links don't make the case.
Many other people think he is preaching hate for the rich white people.
However, if you think it is love he is preaching, when he says, "God damn
America", then you are entitled to your opinion; but don't be surprised
if a lot of people in America disagrees with you. The following is Hillary
Clintons take on it:
Originally posted by RJHinds Many other people think he is preaching hate for the rich white people.
No, sorry. I don't buy it. His schtick is admittedly a bit too Old Testament for me, to be frank. All the stuff about "chosen" people, and smiting ones enemies down, not wanting to be forsaken by God, destroying "enemy" gods or the gods of their enemies, etc. It's a kind portentous, macho babble that strikes me as quite common among certain Christian factions. But he can hardly have been "preaching hatred" of "white people" for 20 years in Obama's presence seeing as Obama has never uttered a single word in public that even hints at any hatred of "white people". I think the notoriously all-white-knuckles-and-no-sense-of humour Mr Hannity might have been having his leg pulled too.
Originally posted by shahenshah To : Buckky .... I agree with you... However, the US has still dis-regarded about 50% of its population... women. When will the US elect a lady President. Come on even small new democracies have lady Presidents.
To : Epiphineas... that was an excellent reply
My view is that.... IN GENERAL, a belief in God, usually entails a belief that God is Go ...[text shortened]... on't join politics is because of all the corruption and manipulation that goes on in politics.
Not so with an Atheist, who doesn't believe in God and is not bound to do good or bound by a set of commandments/ethics.
This bit of nonsense comes up again and again. All human beings, regardless of their religious position, follow an (innate or learned) ethical/moral code (sociopaths and their ilk excluded). Religion is used by some to codify and explain this code, but the absence of religion in no way indicates an absence of ethics and morals. I might even argue that those who have recourse to divine 'forgiveness' would be more likely to disregard their better judgement in times of temptation than those who have only their own conscience to worry about.
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