Originally posted by pyxelated
If Jesus is God, and Mary is Jesus' mother, then Mary is the Mother of God.
Accept the premises and you must accept the conclusion. Which premise do you deny?
Of course, it is a lot more complicated than that, since Jesus is fully God and fully man, and his two natures are united inseparably in one person, according to the council of Ephesus in AD 43 ...[text shortened]... and fully man, at the same time, and Mary is His mother. She is, therefore, the Mother of God.
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If Jesus is God, and Mary is Jesus' mother, then Mary is the Mother of God.
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The book of Romans lays out the basic tenets of the Christian faith.
How much space does Paul use on teaching about "the mother of God"?
None.
And the Apostle John has the Lord dismiss her on one occasion saying
"Woman, what do I have in this that concerns you? My hour has not yet come." (John 2:4)
Paul acknowledged a certain obscure un-named female disciple, the mother of one Rufus, as also his own spiritual "mother" -
"Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord and his mther as well as mine." (Rom. 16:13)
Since Paul authored some 13 of the 27 books of the New Testament how come we don't see him pouring out adorations of Mary as his mother ?
The RCC has taken Venus or some other female godess, bestowed on her the name of Mary and demanded that adoration of "the mother of God" be heaped upon her.
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Accept the premises and you must accept the conclusion. Which premise do you deny?
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Since Christ is God incarnated as a man, your premise is arguable. Perhaps in some sense right. How much space in the New Testament is devoted to lifting up "the Mother of God" for worship, prayers, intercession, and adoration ?
Nothing is taught about this. What little is said about the woman who was chosen
"among" woman (rather than ABOVE) other woman, has been completely blown up out of proportion.
But this is the effect of LEAVEN on fine flour. It bloats up the loaf in fermentation. It enlarges the lump as it leavens the fine flower.
"Another parable He spoke to them: The kingdom of the heavens is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal until the whole was leavened." (Matt. 13:33)
The meaning of this parable is similar to the meaning of the parable of the mustard seed that broke the law of nature and grew to be a huge tree with birds lodging in its branches (13:31,32)
Christ is the unleavened fine flour. And the church is the practical kingdom of the heavens. The church must be a loaf of unleavened bread
(1 Cor. 5:7-8). In the Scripture leaven signifies evil things
(1 Cor. 5:6,8) and evil doctrines
(Matt. 16:6, 11-12).
The Roman Catholic Church, which was fully and officially formed in the sixth century and is signified by the woman in this parable, took many pagan practices, heretical doctrines, and evil matters and mixed them with the teachings concerning Christ, leavening the whole content of Christianity.
This mixture became the corrupted content of the facade of the kingdom of the heavens. And this is why RCC has a totally bloated up monsterous tradition of "the mother of God". It is a tumor, a cancer of paganism mixed in to attract the masses of the world.
Yet
"meal" in the parable is for making the meal offering
(Lev. 2:1) as a symbol of Christ as food to both God and man. Three measures of meal is the quantity needed to make a full meal
(Genesis 18:6) . So the hiding of the leaven in three measures of meal signifies that the Roman Catholic Church has fully leavened in a hidden wat all the teachings concerning Christ the Son of God.
The "Mother of God" is a Satanic ploy to distract people away from Christ the Son of God. And this leavening process is against the Scripture which strongly forbids putting any leaven into the meal offering
(Lev. 2:4-5.11)
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Of course, it is a lot more complicated than that, since Jesus is fully God and fully man, and his two natures are united inseparably in one person, according to the council of Ephesus in AD 431.
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This is wonderful teaching. This we can accept. But we should reject the destructive and corrupting LEAVEN of Mary worship. And that even if there seems some grammatical ground to launch a teaching about it.
The Devil is very subtle you know ?
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Questions like this point out the need for an authority capable of deciding them... good thing there is one
So it becomes simpler: Jesus is fully God and fully man, at the same time, and Mary is His mother. She is, therefore, the Mother of God.
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This leaven makes man drunken and befuddled to the truth of the word of God.
Believers involved in idolatry may be saved but they will not participate in the kingdom of God in the millennial kingdom following the second coming of Christ:
"And the works of the flesh are manifest, which aer such things as fornication, uncleaness, lasciviousness, IDOLATRY, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, FACTIONS, DIVISIONS, SECTS envyings, bouts of drunkenness, carousings, and things like these, of which I tell you beforehand, even as I have said before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." (Galatians 5:19-21 my emphasis)
Mary worship is idolatry. Idolatry is one of the works of the flesh. If a Christians has a lifestyle of IDOLATRY he is in danger of being excluded from the kingdom of God. He will be disciplined during the 1,000 year millennial kingdom following the second coming of Christ.
Paul warns the Christians beforehand. He has told them this before. Those who habitually practice idolatry without repentance will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Included in things which will exclude the redeemed Christian from the reward of the millennial kingdom also include
"factions, divisions, sects". This list of abominable lifestyles is only representative and not exhaustive. Paul says
"and things LIKE these" .
When we become aware that we are involved in idolatry we must repent and forsake this sin. So if you are a Christian deceived by the RCC or by any group to worship "the Mother of God" you need to repent before the Lord of something which can cause you not to be able to inherit the kingdom of God.
As we gain spiritual light on the
leaven that is in our Christian life and church life, we need to seek God's forgiveness and deliverance.
Paul exhorts the believers to hold fast the Head, Christ. To fail to focus our love on Christ may cause us to be cheated and defrauded of our kingdom prize:
"Let no one defraud you by ... the worshp of angels dwelling on things which he has seen, vainly puffed up by his mind set on the flesh,
And not holding the Head, our from whom all the body, being richly supplied and knit together by means of the joints and sinews, grows with the growth of God." (See Col. 2:18-19)
The prinicple of destraction by fleshy visions is also seen in preoccupation with visions of bleeding statues or apparitions of Mary. These cannot build up the Body of Christ. And they are cheating teachings which defraud the believers, causing them to lose their prize, stumping their spiritual growth. This is not spiritual reality. These are falsehoods based on the mind set on the flesh and vainly puffed up with foolishness and superstition.