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    Jesus Christ is God Incarnate


    "...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."

    --MATTHEW 1:23
    "...if ye believe not that I am he,
    ye shall die in your sins."
    --JESUS CHRIST, JOHN 8:2

    God Jesus
    God never changes.
    Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
    Jesus never changes.
    Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    God is the only Saviour.
    "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11

    To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12

    God our Saviour. Titus 2:10

    ...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10

    God my Saviour. Luke 1:47
    Jesus is the only Saviour.
    ...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14

    ...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18

    ...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1

    ...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42

    ...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4

    a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11

    Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
    --Acts 4:12

    ...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
    --2 Timothy 2:10

    ...captain of their salvation [Jesus] perfect through sufferings.
    -- Heb 2:10

    [Jesus]...author of eternal salvation...
    -- Heb 5:9

    God Jesus
    God created the universe and earth by Himself.
    I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself. Isaiah 44:24

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
    Jesus Christ created the universe and the earth.
    [U]nto the Son he saith...Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. Hebrews 1:10

    [B]y him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth...all things were created by him, and for him. Colossians 1:16

    All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

    God Jesus
    God is the Word.
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God John 1:1
    Jesus is the Word.
    ...the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...John 1:14

    God Jesus
    God is the first and the last.

    I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4
    Jesus is the first and the last.

    Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17



    God Jesus
    God forgives sins.
    [T]he Lord..forgiveth all thine iniquities... Psalm 103:2-3

    "[W]ho can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7
    Jesus forgives sins.
    Jesus...said..."Son, thy sins be forgiven thee." Mark 2:5

    God Jesus
    God is our redeemer.
    [T]hou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer.. Isaiah 63:16
    Jesus redeemed us.
    [T]the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity.. Titus 2:13-14

    God Jesus
    God is one.

    Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Deuteronomy 6:4
    Jesus and God are one.

    I and my Father are one. John 10:30

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...All things were made by him...He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:1, 3, 10, 14

    Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9

    For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

    God has a Son.

    [T]he LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psalms 2:7
    Jesus is God's Son.

    ... [Jesus] said also that God was his Father... John 5:18



    God Jesus
    God is the Holy One
    Psalms 71:22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth,O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.

    Psalms 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.

    Psalms 89:18 For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.

    Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.

    Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Messianic Psalm)
    Jesus is the Holy One.
    Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

    3:13-14 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

    13:34-35 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

    God Jesus
    Only God is worshipped.
    ... Then saith Jesus unto him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10
    Jesus is worshipped.
    While [Jesus] spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him... Matthew 9:18

    And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6

    And Thomas answered and said unto [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28

    God Jesus
    God is Messiah.
    ...unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder...and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father... Isaiah 9:6
    Jesus is Messiah.
    The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:25-26

    God Jesus
    God is from everlasting.

    The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2
    Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) is from everlasting.

    But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2



    God Jesus
    Only God is glorified.
    I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another... Isaiah 42:8
    God glorified Jesus.
    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5

    [A]ll men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. John 5:23

    But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8

    God Jesus
    God is 'I am'.
    And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14
    Jesus is 'I am'.
    Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58

    God heals all diseases.
    Bless the LORD...who healeth all thy diseases. Psalms 103:2
    Jesus heals all diseases.
    [Jesus] healed all that were sick. Matthew 8:16

    God is the Judge of the whole earth.
    O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2

    [Abraham to God]...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Genesis 18:25
    Jesus is the Judge of the whole earth.
    [T]he Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 5:22

    God has life in Himself.
    [T]he Father hath life in himself; John 5:26
    Jesus has life in Himself.
    so hath [God] given to the Son to have life in himself;

    In [Jesus] was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4

    God raises the dead.
    [T]he Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; John 5:21
    Jesus raises the dead.
    [T]he Son quickeneth whom he will. John 5:21


    "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, BELIEVED ON in the world, RECEIVED UP into glory."

    --1 Timothy 3:16


    "But unto the SON he saith, 'Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom'...And, 'Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands.'"

    -- Hebrews 1:8, 10


    "I and my Father are ONE."

    --Jesus Christ, John 10:30



    "...CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

    --Philippians 2:5-8


    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, THE WORD, AND THE HOLY GHOST: and THESE THREE ARE ONE."

    --1 John 5:7



    "... feed the church of GOD, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD."...
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    28 Feb '10 03:101 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    Jesus Christ is God Incarnate


    "...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."

    --MATTHEW 1:23
    "...if ye believe not that I am he,
    ye shall die in your sins."
    --JESUS CHRIST, JOHN 8:2

    God Jesus
    God never changes.
    Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
    Jesus church of GOD, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD."...
    😴 zzzzzzzzzzzz
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    28 Feb '10 03:15
    Originally posted by josephw
    Jesus Christ is God Incarnate


    "...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."

    --MATTHEW 1:23
    "...if ye believe not that I am he,
    ye shall die in your sins."
    --JESUS CHRIST, JOHN 8:2

    God Jesus
    God never changes.
    Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
    Jesus ...[text shortened]... church of GOD, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD."...
    it would have been better if he had commented on the text rather than try to attack your character.
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    28 Feb '10 03:16
    Originally posted by josephw
    Jesus Christ is God Incarnate


    "...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."

    --MATTHEW 1:23
    "...if ye believe not that I am he,
    ye shall die in your sins."
    --JESUS CHRIST, JOHN 8:2

    God Jesus
    God never changes.
    Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
    Jesus ...[text shortened]... church of GOD, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD."...
    Just because it's in the bible doesn't mean it's true.
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    28 Feb '10 03:17
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    it would have been better if he had commented on the text rather than try to attack your character.
    my comment was a comment upon the text, same old trinitarian dogma, now you shall explain what that has to do with Josephs character, if you please.
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    28 Feb '10 03:22
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    my comment was a comment upon the text, same old trinitarian dogma, now you shall explain what that has to do with Josephs character, if you please.
    what has it got to do with the cited scriptures, absolutely nothing, thats what!
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    28 Feb '10 03:301 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    😴 zzzzzzzzzzzz
    Romans 11:8

    (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; ) unto this day.
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    28 Feb '10 03:31
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Just because it's in the bible doesn't mean it's true.
    Your unbelief doesn't make it not true.
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    28 Feb '10 03:34
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    it would have been better if he had commented on the text rather than try to attack your character.
    I think he's mad at me for the fight we had the other day.
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    28 Feb '10 03:411 edit
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    what has it got to do with the cited scriptures, absolutely nothing, thats what!
    did you even read my post? spoken like a true Paulian, it has every thing to do with the scriptures, i am fed up discussing the trinity, and made my displeasure known. I know youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but at least you could have engaged your mind, before posting.
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    28 Feb '10 03:43
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    what has it got to do with the cited scriptures, absolutely nothing, thats what!
    You're killing me ToO. 😉
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    28 Feb '10 03:441 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    I think he's mad at me for the fight we had the other day.
    i am not mad, why would i be mad? i just expressed by unwillingness to discuss these trinitarian concepts with a little smiley and a few zzzzzzz. i do not hold grudges against the poor spiritually starving members of Christendom, for God knows they could do with every piece of kindness that comes their way.
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    28 Feb '10 03:452 edits
    Originally posted by josephw
    You're killing me ToO. 😉
    perhaps you could PM your affection to each other, kissy kissy thinkofone, oh how you tickle me Joseph, yuck! 😉
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    28 Feb '10 03:58
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    did you even read my post? spoken like a true Paulian, it has every thing to do with the scriptures, i am fed up discussing the trinity, and made my displeasure known. I know you not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but at least you could have engaged your mind, before posting.
    That's too bad robbie.

    The scriptures bear abundant testimony that Jesus Christ is God, but you are deeply entrenched in the doctrine of the Watchtower.

    It's a funny thing. You seem to be even more intelligent than me. I'm sure you are. Yet you refuse to see the truth of what the scripture teaches.

    When I was 28 years old I didn't know what the Bible said about anything. I started reading it and met up with some JW's and studied the Bible with them for about 6 months. I read everything the Watchtower published and listened to all that was said debunking the "trinity".

    Then I got on my knees and pleaded with God to show me the truth. I opened my Bible to John 1:1,(without a clue about it's contents) and was assured by that one verse that Jesus was in fact God. It was at that momment that I believed and trust in Jesus as my saviour.

    I provided much much more scriptural evidense here, but you ignored my posts in other threads on this subject.

    It is indeed odd that you will not actually address even one verse. You seem to be afraid.
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    28 Feb '10 03:59
    lol, that seems to have quietened you guys down a bit, but i shall intrude no more and let those that want to discuss the fallacy do so at their leisure, good morning, its 4 am here and i wish you well 🙂
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