The actions of the Taliban faction that murdered those 132 children in Peshawar are so despicable that words of condemnation just feel as if they cannot possibly match the scale and depravity of the atrocity.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30507836
Do Christians like sonship and Grampy Bobby and others believe that these slaughtered children now face an eternity of torture in burning agony for not believing in Jesus?
Originally posted by FMFReally?
The actions of the Taliban faction that murdered those 132 children in Peshawar are so despicable that words of condemnation just feel as if they cannot possibly match the scale and depravity of the atrocity.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30507836
Do Christians like sonship and Grampy Bobby and others believe that these slaughtered children now face an eternity of torture in burning agony for not believing in Jesus?
How despicable are you, for using the deaths of these 132 slaughtered children to further your pathetic agenda on a chess website against sonship and GB?
Take a hard look in the mirror and ask *yourself* the hard questions about your *own* motivations.
Originally posted by SuzianneWell I have condemned the Taliban atrocity, which is more than you have done.
Really?
How despicable are you, for using the deaths of these 132 slaughtered children to further your pathetic agenda on a chess website against sonship and GB?
Take a hard look in the mirror and ask *yourself* the hard questions about your *own* motivations.
I am not blaming Christians for the slaughter. And I am not blaming the Christian God figure for allowing the slaughter, or anything of the sort.
The question is about the Christian 'eternal torture' ideology as propagated by the two regular posters I mentioned as well as others.
It would be rather odd if a terrorist mass murder carried out by Muslims here on earth rendered Christians too queasy to answer a pretty straight forward question about "salvation" and "damnation".
Presumably, according to Christians, these Taliban are going to "Hell" for their lack of belief in Jesus. My question is about the 'eternal address', as Grampy Bobby puts it, of the Muslim children that were slaughtered.
My motivation is my interest in finding out what Christians say and how they behave when the coherence of their beliefs is scrutinized. The way you have reacted, for instance, is interesting.
17 Dec 14
"All children having been born [the moment the Holy Spirit imparts physical life and soul life] who die before reaching the age of accountability [God Consciousness] will be in heaven because one of God's attributes is Justice which means He's fair." Thread 161949 (Page 9)
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo if these children had already embraced their families' and communities' religious beliefs, they would, then ~ according to your theology ~ end up at the same 'eternal address' as the Taliban gunmen who murdered them?
"All children having been born [the moment the Holy Spirit imparts physical life and soul life] who die before reaching the age of accountability [God Consciousness] will be in heaven because one of God's attributes is Justice which means He's fair." Thread 161949 (Page 9)
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFThe question is for you FMF.
So if these children had already embraced their families' and communities' religious beliefs, they would, then ~ according to your theology ~ end up at the same 'eternal address' as the Taliban gunmen who murdered them?
Does God punish the innocent?
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17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYou can make this even more palatable by saying that God also determines whether each of us has reached "the age of accountability [God Consciousness]" that you mention.
"All children having been born [the moment the Holy Spirit imparts physical life and soul life] who die before reaching the age of accountability [God Consciousness] will be in heaven because one of God's attributes is Justice which means He's fair." Thread 161949 (Page 9)
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyaccording to some, not unless they are baptized into the christian faith.
"All children having been born [the moment the Holy Spirit imparts physical life and soul life] who die before reaching the age of accountability [God Consciousness] will be in heaven because one of God's attributes is Justice which means He's fair." Thread 161949 (Page 9)
his question stands, who here believes infidels (children or not) should spend an eternity of agony just for not believing in the right deity (or flavor of deity)
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by JS357Another of God's attributes is His omniscience [which means that He knows all that is knowable perfectly and eternally whether actual or merely possible; every scientific discovery in our times has been known to Him since eternity past].
You can make this even more palatable by saying that God also determines whether each of us has reached "the age of accountability [God Consciousness]" that you mention.
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Zahlanzi"according to some..." in no way negates God's Justice [fairness] toward the angelic creation and toward all human beings.
according to some, not unless they are baptized into the christian faith.
his question stands, who here believes infidels (children or not) should spend an eternity of agony just for not believing in the right deity (or flavor of deity)
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo being a Muslim child who dies while not yet conscious of the Christian God figure is a way to receive eternal life as conceived by Christian theology and this can be achieved without going 'through' Jesus or even believing in Him?
All children having been born [the moment the Holy Spirit imparts physical life and soul life] who die before reaching the age of accountability [God Consciousness] will be in heaven because one of God's attributes is Justice which means He's fair.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHow would you connect this assertion of yours to the OP question?
Another of God's attributes is His omniscience [which means that He knows all that is knowable perfectly and eternally whether actual or merely possible; every scientific discovery in our times has been known to Him since eternity past].
17 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe words "according to some..." remind the reader that the claims people like you and sonship make about "God's Justice" are interpretations that are not shared by all and, of course, cannot be substantiated or verified.
"according to some..." in no way negates God's Justice [fairness] toward the angelic creation and toward all human beings.
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by ZahlanziI'll name a few:
according to some, not unless they are baptized into the christian faith.
his question stands, who here believes infidels (children or not) should spend an eternity of agony just for not believing in the right deity (or flavor of deity)
Sonship
Grampy bobby
Whodey
Joesephw
RJHinds