The top 10 benefits of atheism

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I believe God has given everyone a conscience.

Conscience provides motivation to obey moral rules. Does it inform us what those rules are?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Not by the moral standards of my own society. You get that right?

(You don't get that).

If the moral standards of your society are right for you then the moral standards of another society are right for them. You get that right?

(You don't get that)

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If rape is only wrong because a society decided that it is and not because its is intrinsically wrong, the question arises whether society has the right to impose its morals on its people. If however rape is instrisicallt wrong and God etched that knowledge into everyone's conscience then everyone would feel obliged not to do it whether their society enforces it or not.

You are not answering my question.

Originally posted by JS357
Conscience provides motivation to obey moral rules. Does it inform us what those rules are?

I think that even if no one told me that premeditated murder and rape was wrong, my conscience would wouldn't allow me to do it.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Even if no one told me that premeditated murder and rape was wrong, my conscience would wouldn't allow me to do it.

Would it be morally incoherent and meaningless if, in such circumstances, you believed murder and rape to be wrong?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I think that even if no one told me that premeditated murder and rape was wrong, my conscience would wouldn't allow me to do it.

So in the absence of someone telling you what is right or wrong, you rely, fundamentally, on gut feel?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So if anyone decides that any given action is right then it is automatically right?

If that is okay with you.

Originally posted by apathist
If that is okay with you.

If someone were to decide that rape is right, I would not be ok with it, would you be ok with it?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I believe God has given everyone a conscience.

I think that even if no one told me that premeditated murder and rape was wrong, my conscience would wouldn't allow me to do it.

Yet murder happens.
So either there is a hole in your argument, or God supports murder.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Yet murder happens.
So either there is a hole in your argument, or God supports murder.

Not everyone obeys their conscience.

Originally posted by KellyJay
You are not answering my question.

Clearly there are people who reject God and moral absolutes, so they would probably not be subservient to them. What do you think?

Originally posted by FMF
Would it be morally incoherent and meaningless if, in such circumstances, you believed murder and rape to be wrong?

Within a context of me understanding that God placed a moral compass inside me to follow, probably not.

Originally posted by divegeester
So in the absence of someone telling you what is right or wrong, you rely, fundamentally, on gut feel?

It's called a conscience. Do you have one? 😉

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
It's called a conscience. Do you have one? 😉

Sure. My conscience tells me is is absolutely morally wrong to kill children. What does your conscience tell you about that, and why is there a difference?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I think that even if no one told me that premeditated murder and rape was wrong, my conscience would wouldn't allow me to do it.

Your conscience "would wouldn't" allow you to do it?

You sound conflicted. Freudian slip much?