Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThis post is in response to the following nonsense posted by sonship.
Your definition of "wise" as in "wisest" in context would be helpful.
(If you don't understand any of the words ... ask him)
If out of man's imagination the character of Jesus Christ was concocted fictitiously, then we better find that person. He or she has more wisdom than anyone else who has ever lived.
Originally posted by wolfgang59Thanks, wolfgang. Christ's concise phrase: "It is finished" [at the Golgotha Hill Crucifixion signified that all of the sins of mankind had been imputed to Him and judged; that the Father's Justice and Righteousness were satisfied; that the work required to reconcile man to God was completed] remind me that the Wisdom of God motivated by His Unfailing Love provided for the removal of an otherwise insurmountable barrier between man and God and the grace gift of eternal life.
This post is in response to the following nonsense posted by sonship.
(If you don't understand any of the words ... ask him)
If out of man's imagination the character of Jesus Christ was concocted fictitiously, then we better find that person. He or she has more wisdom than anyone else who has ever lived.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySurely this is just a dollop of dogma that you have internalized? How can it be considered "wisdom" if it has no application whatsoever to real life as it is experienced by the billions and billions of humans who are not Christians?
Thanks, wolfgang. Christ's concise phrase: "It is finished" [at the Golgotha Hill Crucifixion signified that all of the sins of mankind had been imputed to Him and judged; that the Father's Justice and Righteousness were satisfied; that the work required to reconcile man to God was completed] remind me that the Wisdom of God motivated by His Unfa ...[text shortened]... otherwise insurmountable barrier between man and God and the grace gift of eternal life.
Originally posted by FabianFnasIn usual grampy style, he missed the point on several counts. He quoted the phrase not because of its wisdom, but because it reminded him of Gods wisdom. He also assumed that Christ actually said it, whereas sonships claim clearly states that the wisdom must hold up even if the character of Jesus Christ was concocted fictitiously.
And where's the wisdom in that? Everyone facing his own death has this thought as the last one. "Okay, folks, that's it." And then there's exit and good bye.
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe funny thing is that Jesus lied in that very moment. He knew very well that he would resurrect later on, because so said the prophecy. So when the wise guy said "it is finished" it wasn't his end after all. If Jesus was the son of god, that is.
In usual grampy style, he missed the point on several counts. He quoted the phrase not because of its wisdom, but because it reminded him of Gods wisdom. He also assumed that Christ actually said it, whereas sonships claim clearly states that the wisdom must hold up even if the character of Jesus Christ was concocted fictitiously.
I think rather some other wise guy wrote it down, decennia after. So what it is written what Jesus said or not said is well behind the curtain of non-knowledge.
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Thanks, wolfgang. Christ's concise phrase: "It is finished" [at the Golgotha Hill Crucifixion signified that all of the sins of mankind had been imputed to Him and judged; that the Father's Justice and Righteousness were satisfied; that the work required to reconcile man to God was completed] remind me that the Wisdom of God motivated by His Unfailing Love provided for the removal of an otherwise insurmountable barrier between man and God and the grace gift of eternal life.
Amen.
Thank God that He had mercy upon me and gave me the ability to believe this revelation.