Originally posted by @fmf Do you forgive homosexuals for engaging in sexual relationships? Do you forgive Suzianne for being more tolerant and forgiving of homosexuals than you appear to be?
I don't need to forgive them. They have not trespassed against me. Neither has Suzi trespassed against me. They trespass against God.
Originally posted by @eladar I don't need to forgive homosexuals . They have not trespassed against me.
If they haven't trespassed against you why have you been aiming so much hateful invective at them on this forum and the Debates Forum for so many years?
Originally posted by @fmf If they haven't trespassed against you why have you been aiming so much hateful invective at them on this forum and the Debates Forum for so many years?
Originally posted by @chaney3 Thanks KellyJay.
I am trying to figure out if anyone other than ThinkOfOne thinks that the words of Jesus would matter.....without Jesus.
I am having much trouble with that 'rogue theory', as I call it.
John 6
63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life
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It's the words that "are spirit and are life".
"God is reaching down to man to lift him up" via the words and the concepts behind the words.
"Accept[ing] Him into their lives" entails being true to the words and the concepts behind the words. .
14 For if you forgive [h]others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive [i]others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions.
Has John McCain trespassed against you? And if so, have you forgiven him?
Originally posted by @thinkofone John 6
63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; [b]the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
It's the words that "are spirit and are life".
"God is reaching down to man to lift him up" via the words and the concepts behind the words.
"Accept[ing] Him into their lives" entails being true to the words and the concepts behind the words. .[/b]
"The words I have spoken" (said by Jesus).
How can you possibly quote Jesus? If He didn't exist, then His words are meaningless.
Originally posted by @eladar Expressing truth is hatred? Telling someone not to play on the freeway is hatred?
Yes I mean expressing hatred. I can't ever remember you talking about homosexuals in a 'they shouldn't play on the freeway kind of way'. Are you confident you always embody the intended spirit of "the words of Jesus" here. For example, do you love John McCain even as you wish he dies soon?
Originally posted by @chaney3 I think you are wrong here.
If Bob is really the guy who wrote these words, and Jesus was a lie, then the words are a lie.
Why will you NOT understand what I am saying?
You are illogically conflating the existence of Jesus with the truth of the words attributed to Him.
Just as it would be illogical to conflate the existence of Albert Einstein with the truth of the words attributed to him.
You seemed to understand this and then you subsequently seemed unable to separate the existence of the person from the words attributed to the person. The words and the concepts behind the words exist even without the person.
From what I can tell, this is because you still buy into the mythology even though you find the mythology "absurd".
29 Jul '17 04:33
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