The words of Jesus

Originally posted by @fmf
As a Christian, you are instructed to love your enemies, are you not? We get that from "the words of Jesus". You hope that he dies soon; you consider him an enemy, clearly.

You can live an enemy you kill if that stops your enemy from killing others.

Do you think Jesus was unloving when he asked God to save him from his death on the cross?

Originally posted by @chaney3
"Jesus understood the truth of His words".

Your argument has crumbled, for if Jesus didn't exist then His words don't exist.

You are not making sense!!!

The truth doesn't exist whether or not the person delivering the truth exists?

The truth didn't exist before the truth was delivered?

Originally posted by @eladar
You can live an enemy you kill if that stops your enemy from killing others.

I am not asking you about whether you personally want to kill John McCain, nor am I asking you how it is you think he is "killing others". I am asking you, as a Christian, if you love him.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
The truth doesn't exist whether or not the person delivering the truth exists?

The truth didn't exist before the truth was delivered?

If Jesus never existed, then words from Jesus never existed. Some guy named Bob lied and made it all up.

How can you possibly miss this point or disagree with it???

Originally posted by @chaney3
If Jesus never existed, then words from Jesus never existed. Some guy named Bob lied and made it all up.

How can you possibly miss this point or disagree with it???

If Jesus never existed, then words from Jesus never existed.

This doesn't make logical sense. The words are recorded in the Bible. How can you claim that the words don't exist?

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]If Jesus never existed, then words from Jesus never existed.

This doesn't make logical sense. The words are recorded in the Bible. How can you claim that the words don't exist?[/b]

Thank you. There it is.

You are saying that Jesus existed.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Thank you. There it is.

You are saying that Jesus existed.

How does your conclusion make logical sense when I only pointed out that the words exist?

Originally posted by @thinkofone
How does your conclusion make logical sense when I only pointed out that the words exist?

Words from Jesus only matter if Jesus existed.

I have proven my point and have now won this discussion. 🙂

Originally posted by @chaney3
Words from Jesus only matter if Jesus existed.

I have proven my point and have now won this discussion. 🙂

Well you've made the claim even though it doesn't make logical sense 🙂

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Well you've made the claim even though it doesn't make logical sense 🙂

Why illogical?

If Jesus never existed, then the words in the Bible claiming that Jesus said them is a lie.

How are you missing this!!!???

Originally posted by @chaney3
Why illogical?

If Jesus never existed, then the words in the Bible claiming that Jesus said them is a lie.

How are you missing this!!!???

Because the words attributed to Jesus can be true whether or not Jesus existed. The words and the concepts behind the words are what are of importance.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Because the words attributed to Jesus can be true whether or not Jesus existed.

I started this thread to get comments on what you just said.

It boggles the mind.

Originally posted by @chaney3
I started this thread to get comments on what you just said.

It boggles the mind.

What boggles the mind is how you can understand the concept when it comes to the words attributed to Einstein, but seemingly can't when it comes to the words attributed to Jesus.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
What boggles the mind is how you can understand the concept when it comes to the words attributed to Einstein, but seemingly can't when it comes to the words attributed to Jesus.

Einstein existed. The words attributed to Einstein are true.

You are claiming that it doesn't matter if Jesus existed, and I am now 'telling' you that you are wrong!!!

Originally posted by @chaney3
Einstein existed. The words attributed to Einstein are true.

You are claiming that it doesn't matter if Jesus existed, and I am now 'telling' you that you are wrong!!!

But if Einstein never existed, would the words attributed to him be any less true?