Originally posted by Eladar I have no problem with guys who don't want kids having a vasectomy. Women can have their tubes tied.
I just have a problem with butchering innocents.
Yes, you anti-abortionists go way out of your way to convince a woman to have the child but then, knowing you have carved one more notch in your crooked cane, drop that woman like a hot rock and go on to the next victim. You care little about 'child of rape' cases, let the woman live with the knowledge of rape for the rest of her life, what is important is to save the babies.
Originally posted by sonhouse Yes, you anti-abortionists go way out of your way to convince a woman to have the child but then, knowing you have carved one more notch in your crooked cane, drop that woman like a hot rock and go on to the next victim. You care little about 'child of rape' cases, let the woman live with the knowledge of rape for the rest of her life, what is important is to save the babies.
You are evil for calling evil good and good evil.
Your solution is to leave a wake of butchered babies where planned parenthood can make money by selling baby parts.
What a great solution you embrace. As long as you can't hear the screams they don't happen.
Originally posted by Eladar I did answer the question.
No, you didn't.
Sterilize the people who don't want kids. If they want kids let them have kids.
I am sure you find this opinion very odd. Letting people decide for themselves? Actually that seems like you dictating the terms to them.
You can have any colour you like, as long as its black.
[b]Sterilize the people who don't want kids. If they want kids let them have kids.
I am sure you find this opinion very odd. Letting people decide for themselves? Actually that seems like you dictating the terms to them.
You can have any colour you like, as long as its black.[/b]
I'm dictating terms by allowing people to choose. OK
Originally posted by apathist I want children born into a healthy environment.
I want to know that the drivers on the road are competent drivers. Why should parenting be held to a lesser standard?
Again you want state ownership of children? Who will set the standards and if it is the
government it has a habit of creating more and more standards as time goes by. This is
your solution?
Originally posted by apathist Embryos are not babies. First trimester abortion is not murder. Sex is for lovers, reality doesn't require marriage first. The solution is to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
You are quibbling about verbiage of terms, what we call a human pre and post birth are
just words we use to describe human life at different stages of human development. You
end a life pre-birth it is still a human life ended, the stage of life notwithstanding.
Originally posted by Eladar I'm dictating terms by allowing people to choose. OK
No, you are not. You are dictating terms. Your claim that this is providing them with choice is a blatant lie or just plain stupid, you pick. See I gave you a choice there. Enjoy your freedom and get back to me which which one you chose.
Originally posted by twhitehead No, you are not. You are dictating terms. Your claim that this is providing them with choice is a blatant lie or just plain stupid, you pick. See I gave you a choice there. Enjoy your freedom and get back to me which which one you chose.
OK, you can tell me what I'm saying. You like to do that for some reason. I guess you have issues with having to control people.
Originally posted by KellyJay Again you want state ownership of children? Who will set the standards and if it is the
government it has a habit of creating more and more standards as time goes by. This is
your solution?
Ownership? Slavery is immoral. Who sets the standards? We do, and it takes a village. My solution? At a minimum, the same solution we require from those who drive cars.
Explain to me why prospective parents should not demonstrate competency first.
Originally posted by twhitehead I am saying that your portrayal of them as being primarily in the baby parts business is dishonest and malicious and evil.
While your basic point is correct, your rhetoric ensures the point cannot be received.