they can dish it but...?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Originally posted by twhitehead
[b]Why do creationists keep trying to make out that scientific theories are atheistic in nature? The vast majority of Christians in the world today accept both evolution and the big bang theory as fact (or are simply not educated enough to know what they are). Many, probably even the majority of scientists are Chris r beliefs are beliefs because you claim to know but do not have any thing to back it up with.

[/b]You can make that claim about a lot of things, you can say you do
not require gas to run a car that is typically run on gas too, the
point is that you don't have a clue how it all happened, at best a story
about everything that came from nothing, as if that is seen every day.
The same arguments is just as circular without God as is, you require
God or you don't. Science does not say you don't need God, people
do, people who do not want God to have to be involved in the
equation.
Kelly

Originally posted by timebombted
Isn't my fault your forgetful.

Only if you promise to stop spouting your dribble.

Are you a highschool student? You made a claim, I am assuming
you realized right away you got it wrong so changed it to attempt to
fit all other possible scenarios and failed to back any. You are a
waist of time if you cannot at least get your facts strait or follow an
argument to where you know what the other person is saying. I'd
agree with you if you managed to get it right, but the way you came
out attacking about something I do not say you became nothing
but noise.
Kelly

Originally posted by timebombted
Hey Kelly with your superior reading skills and powers of understanding why dont you digest the following material http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

It will clearly show and explain to you that science does not require faith or any level of it, it has no place in science, only evidence which leads to the facts we have today.

This may even help you to stop talking dribble..........however I know you will refuse to read any of this.

Post your own thoughts, big deal you found a link you like as if that
makes it seem like you know what your talking about.
Kelly

Originally posted by blakbuzzrd
Nah, just goofing off. 😵

I guess what is in the heart does come out uh?
Kelly

Originally posted by scottishinnz
Something from nothing is not a logically coherent question.

Come back when you have one.

Where did everything come from?
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I guess what is in the heart does come out uh?
Kelly

So now you're being an ass?

Wait: that makes me a prophet, doesn't it? Wow!

Originally posted by KellyJay
Where did everything come from?
Kelly

A big bang.

Originally posted by KellyJay
You can make that claim about a lot of things, you can say you do
not require gas to run a car that is typically run on gas too, the
point is that you don't have a clue how it all happened, at best a story
about everything that came from nothing, as if that is seen every day.
The same arguments is just as circular without God as is, you require
God ...[text shortened]... d God, people
do, people who do not want God to have to be involved in the
equation.
Kelly[/b]

evidence my good man, evidence.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Post your own thoughts, big deal you found a link you like as if that
makes it seem like you know what your talking about.
Kelly

I know exactly what I'm talking about sir, however in my field of work very little is said or written without reference. This is the reason I provided the link because it contains a collection of peer reviewed work which shows scientific fact is based on evidence and no level of faith.

You have confirmed what I previously thought, thank you.

Just out of curiosity are you one of those people who now accept micro-evolution yet still try to discredit macro-evolution?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Are you a highschool student? You made a claim, I am assuming
you realized right away you got it wrong so changed it to attempt to
fit all other possible scenarios and failed to back any. You are a
waist of time if you cannot at least get your facts strait or follow an
argument to where you know what the other person is saying. I'd
agree with you if yo ...[text shortened]... way you came
out attacking about something I do not say you became nothing
but noise.
Kelly

OK lets not waste each others time anymore, how about you just clarify your position on how much faith is involved in science? On a scale of 0 - 10, 0 = science requires no faith only evidence based and 10 = science is blind faith on par with religion.

Just a number KJ, very simple, and hard to be vague.

In my opinion its 0 - nothing is said in science without evidence, faith never enters the equation.

PS
High school student? - No
Marine biologist / conservation geneticist? - Yes

Originally posted by scottishinnz
A big bang.

What was before the Big bang?
What blew up?
Kelly

Originally posted by timebombted
I know exactly what I'm talking about sir, however in my field of work very little is said or written without reference. This is the reason I provided the link because it contains a collection of peer reviewed work which shows scientific fact is based on evidence and no level of faith.

You have confirmed what I previously thought, thank you.

Just o ...[text shortened]... one of those people who now accept micro-evolution yet still try to discredit macro-evolution?

I'm glad you know exactly what your talking about.

If you want a discorse say something, if I wanted to read a link I do
not need to you to aquire one.

I have not read your link, but even without it I'd bet there are levels of
beliefs mixed in to suit the faith you have.
Kelly

Originally posted by timebombted
OK lets not waste each others time anymore, how about you just clarify your position on how much faith is involved in science? On a scale of 0 - 10, 0 = science requires no faith only evidence based and 10 = science is blind faith on par with religion.

Just a number KJ, very simple, and hard to be vague.

In my opinion its 0 - nothing is said in sci ...[text shortened]... he equation.

PS
High school student? - No
Marine biologist / conservation geneticist? - Yes

You made the claim about my views, I'm not going to jump through
hoops to suit you, if you have desire to discuss something, bring it
up. Otherwise I'm not going to waste my time with you, todate the
only thing I have seen from you is an accusation without any means
to back it up.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm glad you know exactly what your talking about.

If you want a discorse say something, if I wanted to read a link I do
not need to you to aquire one.

I have not read your link, but even without it I'd bet there are levels of
beliefs mixed in to suit the faith you have.
Kelly

Please state what faith you think I have? I am a scientist and believe I have made it very clear that there is no faith in science only evidence, as soon as faith appears science disappears.

For example - evolution began as a hypothesis, and has been a fact for many years, the plethora of evidence in its favor became so strong that no knowledgeable and unbiased person could deny its reality.

Again no faith here to produce "fact" just evidence.

Originally posted by timebombted
Please state what faith you think I have? I am a scientist and believe I have made it very clear that there is no faith in science only evidence, as soon as faith appears science disappears.

For example - evolution began as a hypothesis, and has been a fact for many years, the plethora of evidence in its favor became so strong that no knowledgeable a ...[text shortened]... nbiased person could deny its reality.

Again no faith here to produce "fact" just evidence.

You believe evolution brought life from the a singluar simplier life
form many years ago X years ago, whatever X is, till we get the vast
array of life we see today?
Kelly