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Your responses to my post demonstrate your ignorance of the concept (hence my use of the word "fatuous" ). "Dynamically evolving system" does not mean the same thing necessarily as macroevolution. Macroevolution is just an example of such a system. In fact, I encourage you to educate yourself by pulling out a dictionary or browsing one online. Just look up the word "evolve" and I'm sure you will find something along the lines of "gradually changing." The fact that the world is "changing" should not be indispute.
Now specific to the theory of evolution, in your question you were asking how the theory might account for flower pollenation if bees were not the carriers. One does not need to prove that evolution is true in order to answer your question. Since Evolution decribes one type of dynamic system, I merely had to point out that your question was silly because it displayed an ignorance of the theory. It's like asking how a xtian can explain Jesus traveling through Galilee without a motorcycle.
Would you be so kind as to point out any single shread of evidence which would suggest that an evolving system is possible.
Sure, pinhead. Here's just a few of many examples: weather systems, financial markets, macroeconomies, the growth and spread of viruses, traffic patterns, geological formations, political processes.
Dynamically evolving system? You speak as if it is a fact. Would you be so kind as to point out any single shread of evidence which would suggest that an evolving system is possible
Are you sure you still want to take this position, or do you want to deny that the above examples do not exist?
To just blindly assume that the entire process is endogenous is more fatuous. Do you have any evidence to suggest the process ever occured, never mind if it is endogenous.
Again this is beside the point. You brought up your objection within the context of macroevolution. I responded within the same context.
But for the sake of pro bono tutoring, I will respond. We have evidence that the process continues today. Consider for example, the effects of human behavior on the atmosphere. Gas-emissions and rainforest destruction reduce ozone. This leads in turn harms other plant and animal life.
Do us all a favor, before you write another asinine retort, and go learn a few things tonight about dynamic systems and endogeneity vs. exogeneity.
Now specific to the theory of evolution, in your question you were asking how the theory might account for flower pollenation if bees were not the carriers. One does not need to prove that evolution is true in order to answer your question. Since Evolution decribes one type of dynamic system, I merely had to point out that your question was silly because it displayed an ignorance of the theory. It's like asking how a xtian can explain Jesus traveling through Galilee without a motorcycle.
Would you be so kind as to point out any single shread of evidence which would suggest that an evolving system is possible.
Sure, pinhead. Here's just a few of many examples: weather systems, financial markets, macroeconomies, the growth and spread of viruses, traffic patterns, geological formations, political processes.
Dynamically evolving system? You speak as if it is a fact. Would you be so kind as to point out any single shread of evidence which would suggest that an evolving system is possible
Are you sure you still want to take this position, or do you want to deny that the above examples do not exist?
To just blindly assume that the entire process is endogenous is more fatuous. Do you have any evidence to suggest the process ever occured, never mind if it is endogenous.
Again this is beside the point. You brought up your objection within the context of macroevolution. I responded within the same context.
But for the sake of pro bono tutoring, I will respond. We have evidence that the process continues today. Consider for example, the effects of human behavior on the atmosphere. Gas-emissions and rainforest destruction reduce ozone. This leads in turn harms other plant and animal life.
Do us all a favor, before you write another asinine retort, and go learn a few things tonight about dynamic systems and endogeneity vs. exogeneity.