Originally posted by checkbaiterElection campaign rhetoric aside, haven't the borders been more secure - less illegal immigrants coming in and more people being deported - under Obama than under Bush, Clinton, Bush the elder, and Reagan? In terms of secure borders, do you think Obama's agenda has been "more in line with Christian values" than his predecessors?
One more time....
Defunding Planned parenthood is trump's agenda that is favorable to Christian values.
That is one.
Securing the borders is another one.
Originally posted by FMFNo, I totally disagree with your assessment..
Election campaign rhetoric aside, haven't the borders been more secure - less illegal immigrants coming in and more people being deported - under Obama than under Bush, Clinton, Bush the elder, and Reagan? In terms of secure borders, do you think Obama's agenda has been "more in line with Christian values" than his predecessors?
All these past presidents did nothing to secure the border, Obama was the worst.
Originally posted by checkbaiterBut surely in terms of the number of people getting in and people getting kicked out he was more rigorous than his predecessors, at least going as far back as the Reagan administration. On what basis are you claiming "Obama was the worst" in terms of securing the border?
No, I totally disagree with your assessment..
All these past presidents did nothing to secure the border, Obama was the worst.
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Originally posted by FMFThen then Border Security was ordered to catch and release.
But surely in terms of the number of people getting in and people getting kicked out he was more rigorous than his predecessors, at least going as far back as the Reagan administration. On what basis are you claiming "Obama was the worst" in terms of securing the border?
I may be wrong on him being the worst but they are all guilty.
Now it remains to be seen if Trump is true to his word.
Originally posted by checkbaiterI know what you stated. And it is specifically because of what you stated that I am asking you the question: what argument are you putting forward about "Christian values" with regard to the border security policy of "catch and release"?
I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.
Originally posted by checkbaiterHow about Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
I already stated his agenda is favorable to Christian values.
No, that can't be it. What about Romans 15:2 "Let each of us please his neighbour for his good, to build him up."
No, that can't be it either...
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeNice try, but were the Amalekites or the Canaanites or the Nebusites invited or loved?
How about Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
No, that can't be it. What about Romans 15:2 "Let each of us please his neighbour for his good, to build him up."
No, that can't be it either...
Immigration is great isn't it? We already have a process legally.
And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.
Originally posted by checkbaiter
Nice try, but were the Amalekites or the Canaanites or the Nebusites invited or loved?
Immigration is great isn't it? We already have a process legally.
And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.
And the ones who love the USA are welcome, but not the ones looking for freebies at the expense of the taxpayer.
This country was founded on foreigners coming to these shores looking for freebies and entitlements.
That's why the former owners of the land are all on "reservations" now.
It is typical that many people want to shut the Golden Gate after they get their goodies.