09 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyDoes the Bible, or God, give wiggle room for this 'grey area', or is killing just wrong, as stated in the commandment, and it's society rationalizing to justify it?
Self-defense is not murder, so scratch that one.
Killing someone in an opposing army is a huge grey area with endless context and nuance
And abortion?
Biblically wrong or women's rights?
Originally posted by @chaney3The Bible is what it is. The Bible is steeped in metaphor, is widely open to interpretation and contains inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. As such, there is no alternative to picking and choosing what parts to believe. Those who claim that they do not pick and choose are disingenuous at best. In effect, they use the Bible to create God in their own image.
Does the Bible, or God, give wiggle room for this 'grey area', or is killing just wrong, as stated in the commandment, and it's society rationalizing to justify it?
And abortion?
Biblically wrong or women's rights?
09 Jun 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI can understand your point.
The Bible is what it is. The Bible is steeped in metaphor, is widely open to interpretation and contains inconsistencies, discrepancies and outright contradictions. As such, there is no alternative to picking and choosing what parts to believe. Those who claim that they do not pick and choose are disingenuous at best. In effect, they use the Bible to create God in their own image.
After that commandment was given, there's endless war and killing laid out in the Bible, seemingly okay with God, with God choosing a side to win.
09 Jun 18
Originally posted by @chaney3By contrast the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry, by and large is reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within itself.
I can understand your point.
After that commandment was given, there's endless war and killing laid out in the Bible, seemingly okay with God, with God choosing a side to win.
09 Jun 18
Originally posted by @chaney3I left abortion off my commentary because it belongs on the no-no list imo
Does the Bible, or God, give wiggle room for this 'grey area', or is killing just wrong, as stated in the commandment, and it's society rationalizing to justify it?
And abortion?
Biblically wrong or women's rights?
10 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyThe OP did not mention murder.
Self-defense is not murder, so scratch that one.
So scratch that.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelNo due process? Are you sure? And what would be the purpose of torturing them?
Murdering and torturing serial paedophiles is ok, imo
10 Jun 18
Originally posted by @fmfWhat torture?
No due process? Are you sure? And what would be the purpose of torturing them?
Are we back to the tired "God tortures people" tripe?
You know the position is clear:
- Justice is meted out.
- Some people, due to their own actions, receive punishment.
Are you suggesting that negative actions do not deserve negative consequences?
10 Jun 18
Originally posted by @wolfgang59The commandment is thou shalt not murder.
The OP did not mention murder.
So scratch that.