There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Originally posted by @kellyjay There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
There is of course a third group that believe neither. (Both coming as they do from a fictional book).
Originally posted by @kellyjay There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
Which do you think is the lie then?
I believe both are lies because there is no such thing as a
tree of knowledge and no such thing as a talking serpent.
Originally posted by @kellyjay It doesn't matter what lie you believe, it still puts you into one camp firmly.
While you may not agree with the claim, do you think it's fair and reasonable discourse to claim that you believe a "lie" too and dismiss it for that reason?
Originally posted by @kellyjay There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
Go back a bit further, and you cover all of them, those who question if God said as well as if God is.
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
At the end of the day, the definition of 'is' really is 'is.'
Originally posted by @kellyjay We all do that regardless of what camp we fall in, what occurs after that shuffling off this
mortal coil is sealed once that occurs.
Not 'all' sir. Religion often functions as the 'opium of the masses' (Marx) and tells those in poverty and hardship to accept their lot in life and wait for their reward in the hereafter. (Thus maintaining the status quo of suffering and inequality).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke Not 'all' sir. Religion often functions as the 'opium of the masses' (Marx) and tells those in poverty and hardship to accept their lot in life and wait for their reward in the hereafter. (Thus maintaining the status quo of suffering and inequality).
People like Marx and yourself like to blame others and do nothing yourself. You are warm and dry and eat and play on the internet while others suffer.
You then blame religion and continue on not helping others.
thou shalt surely die
21 Oct '17 18:58
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