There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
Originally posted by @kellyjayThere is of course a third group that believe neither. (Both coming as they do from a fictional book).
There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYes, so their feet are firmly in one camp as well.
There is of course a third group that believe neither. (Both coming as they do from a fictional book).
Originally posted by @stellspalfieThe goups are those who believe God and those who don't.
How could an atheist be in either camp?
The reason for not believing God is not needed.
Atheists would be part of those who do not agree.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThere is a fourth group, who reject false dichotomies.
There is of course a third group that believe neither. (Both coming as they do from a fictional book).
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhich do you think is the lie then?
There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
I believe both are lies because there is no such thing as a
tree of knowledge and no such thing as a talking serpent.
Which don't you believe?
Originally posted by @kellyjayGo back a bit further, and you cover all of them, those who question if God said as well as if God is.
There are two large groups of people here, not in any order that matters.
Those that believe God when He says:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Those who believe this:
Genesis 3:4
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
One is a lie, the other not.
“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
At the end of the day, the definition of 'is' really is 'is.'
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWe all do that regardless of what camp we fall in, what occurs after that shuffling off this
And a fifth group who just get on with the business of living, before shuffling off this mortal coil..
mortal coil is sealed once that occurs.
Originally posted by @kellyjayNot 'all' sir. Religion often functions as the 'opium of the masses' (Marx) and tells those in poverty and hardship to accept their lot in life and wait for their reward in the hereafter. (Thus maintaining the status quo of suffering and inequality).
We all do that regardless of what camp we fall in, what occurs after that shuffling off this
mortal coil is sealed once that occurs.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukePeople like Marx and yourself like to blame others and do nothing yourself. You are warm and dry and eat and play on the internet while others suffer.
Not 'all' sir. Religion often functions as the 'opium of the masses' (Marx) and tells those in poverty and hardship to accept their lot in life and wait for their reward in the hereafter. (Thus maintaining the status quo of suffering and inequality).
You then blame religion and continue on not helping others.