Three wise former gays

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
or as our friend stellspalfie reminded us, 'the truth is irrelevant'.

why dont you remind us of the time you argued people are only gay while having gay sex..........and the hilarious people are only hetero while having hetero sex....teehee.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
why dont you remind us of the time you argued people are only gay while having gay sex..........and the hilarious people are only hetero while having hetero sex....teehee.

Once again my comments are being misconstrued, existentialist thought on the matter is that the act is the defining criteria, for as free moral agents responsible for our own actions we are capable of both homosexual and heterosexual acts and thus are in essence neither, this was in fact my argument and it remains entirely rational! You namby pamby neo liberals with your wishy washy pseudo scientific studies are willing to lay the blame from warming to criminality at the feet of genetics and your willingness to be expedient with the truth however is a much more serious matter indeed and I have immortalised your words in my profile!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Once again my comments are being misconstrued, existentialist thought on the matter is that the act is the defining criteria, for as free moral agents responsible for our own actions we are capable of both homosexual and heterosexual acts and thus are in essence neither, this was in fact my argument and it remains entirely rational! You namby pamby ...[text shortened]... h however is a much more serious matter indeed and I have immortalised your words in my profile!

quoting without context............how very 'red top' of you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Once again my comments are being misconstrued, existentialist thought on the matter is that the act is the defining criteria, for as free moral agents responsible for our own actions we are capable of both homosexual and heterosexual acts and thus are in essence neither, this was in fact my argument and it remains entirely rational! You namby pamby ...[text shortened]... h however is a much more serious matter indeed and I have immortalised your words in my profile!

using your fantastic existentialist musings. do this also mean that you are equally capable of being pedophile and not being a pedophile?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
using your fantastic existentialist musings. do this also mean that you are equally capable of being pedophile and not being a pedophile?

it means that you are capable of acts of paedophilia, yes. You are in essence neither a paedophile nor not a paedophile, you are simply a human being and a free moral agent responsible for your own actions.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it means that you are capable of acts of paedophilia, yes. You are in essence neither a paedophile nor not a paedophile, you are simply a human being and a free moral agent responsible for your own actions.

Well that is the fact of it, we are truly free to make our own moral judgement because your god and every other god on the planet was simply the product of over imaginative writers a few thousand years ago.

It is really sad that billions of people like you continue to be totally duped by the words of writers thousands of years dead in spite of 300 years of the growth of solid science.

Such superstitious behavior should have been driven out of humanity hundreds of years ago, just another reminder of the basic stupidity of mankind.

Like here we are headed for the worse climactic disaster of the past thousand years and all the religious folk do is pray that some god will fix all the boo boo's mankind has created. Good luck with that one.

Anyone with any kind of half asssed brain should know you put too much CO2 in the atmosphere you gonna mess up the Earth to a point where humans will not be able to grow crops but what do you religious nutters and bought off politicians do? Nothing.

It goes to show you, we are being presented with a big IQ test. It remains to be seen if we are going to pass that particular test.

And in such a scenario all you can do is argue over the origins of morality.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it means that you are capable of acts of paedophilia, yes. You are in essence neither a paedophile nor not a paedophile, you are simply a human being and a free moral agent responsible for your own actions.

so you and i are neither sinners or not sinners. if we were both to step before your god right now we stand as equals. god will not measure our pasts, because we are not what we were we are only what we are right now. correct?

Originally posted by sonhouse
Well that is the fact of it, we are truly free to make our own moral judgement because your god and every other god on the planet was simply the product of over imaginative writers a few thousand years ago.

It is really sad that billions of people like you continue to be totally duped by the words of writers thousands of years dead in spite of 300 years ...[text shortened]... particular test.

And in such a scenario all you can do is argue over the origins of morality.

you should make a recording of this dude, just give me the link and every time you want me to hear it ill play it in your honour.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
so you and i are neither sinners or not sinners. if we were both to step before your god right now we stand as equals. god will not measure our pasts, because we are not what we were we are only what we are right now. correct?

Alas this is not the case because sin is inherent and because we are imperfect (sinful) we sin involuntarily thus taking it out of the realms of a deliberate act, sorry for your argument there ol boy! Saying that sin can also and is often deliberate, but because of it also being on involuntary we remain alas as sinners, until Gods New world arrives and the earth becomes a paradise that is.

But you are correct we both stand before God as equals. Whether God will measure our past actions is hard to say, he values genuine repentance, so even if we have a past full of mistakes it our attitude towards them that really the criteria.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Alas this is not the case because sin is inherent and because we are imperfect (sinful) we sin involuntarily thus taking it out of the realms of a deliberate act, sorry for your argument there ol boy!

But you are correct we both stand before God as equals. Whether God will measure our past actions is hard to say, he values genuine repentance, so even if we have a past full of mistakes it our attitude towards them that really the criteria.

"we sin involuntarily thus taking it out of the realms of a deliberate act"

so homosexuals really do have no choice. hoooooooome run baby!!!!!!!

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]"we sin involuntarily thus taking it out of the realms of a deliberate act"

so homosexuals really do have no choice. hoooooooome run baby!!!!!!![/b]

no they have a choice whether to engage in a homosexual act, they have no choice whether they are sinners or not. Sins are of two types deliberate and involuntary.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no they have a choice whether to engage in a homosexual act, they have no choice whether they are sinners or not. Sins are of two types deliberate and involuntary.

it was a clean bowl robbie. do the honest thing and walk.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
it was a clean bowl robbie. do the honest thing and walk.

dude you have nothing, you are a desperado trying to offer up free bird seed to the roadrunner and after the recent ashes tour I don't think an Englishman should be talking about bowling quite yet, not until the pain has gone at least.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
dude you have nothing, you are a desperado trying to offer up free bird seed to the roadrunner and after the recent ashes tour I don't think an Englishman should be talking about bowling quite yet, not until the pain has gone at least.

i see you have scurried back and edited your post so it now says - sin is involuntary and voluntary!!! so how do you know which sins are voluntary and which are not?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i see you have scurried back and edited your post so it now says - sin is involuntary and voluntary!!! so how do you know which sins are voluntary and which are not?

that is easy, through a deliberate or non deliberate act. You may say to Mrs Palfie, 'I am sorry i did not mean to be dogmatic', and perhaps you did not actually mean to be dogmatic it was simply a reaction, then again, you may run away with the milkman and say, 'Goodbye Mrs Palfie I am leaving you forever!', a deliberate and heinous act of betrayal.