Originally posted by marinakatombNo one claimed you were an ignorant unbeliever, although casting off the shackles of BS seem to confirm at least part of that status.
Well done, you really took my argument appart there. Keep assuming me an ignorant non-believer.
...have since cast off the shackles of bullshit that i was brought up with for so, oh so many years.
What I alluded to was the obscurity of your post.
Originally posted by chancremechanicPerverted.
According to the Christian Holy Bible, unless he seeks Jesus Christ as his personal savior, he will not see the Kingdom of God. Works, no matter how noble, do not get one into heaven. Alcapone was said to be a noble man and did goo works, Donald Trump does good things, but this alone will not get hin into the Kingdom of Heaven. Faith in Jesus as y ...[text shortened]... is paved with good intentions. Without faith, it is impossible to see God...simple as that...
Originally posted by KneverKnightper·vert·ed
Perverted.
adj.
1. Deviating from what is considered right and correct: a perverted idea of justice.
2. Of, relating to, or practicing sexual perversion.
3. Marked by misinterpretation or distortion: a perverted translation of an epic poem
From your esteemed perspective, to what part of the salvation message does this word apply?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHWhat about Matthew 28:19? 😉
Given this is a site mostly inhabited by un-believers, or, as some prefer to label themselves, non-God-botherers, I must invoke the rule of Matthew 7:6.
Besides, don't cop out. If you have a Scriptural reference for this heavenly reward system, then show it.
Originally posted by marinakatomb"Live long and prosper" was easy. That's the vulcan's standard greeting phrase. But: "Go forth and multiply"? Klingon?
Well done, you really took my argument appart there. Keep assuming me an ignorant non-believer. What you don't know is i went to a Catholic Church school for 12 years, went to Church 3 times a week, sang in a choir and have read the Bible 2 or 3 times. I've also read a lot into Buddhism/Taoism/Zen and have since cast off the shackles of bullshit that i ...[text shortened]... was brought up with for so, oh so many years. Live long and prosper, go forth and multiply! 🙂
Well, I think it's unfair. That's all.
If I spend my days doing good, helping others and finding joy and satisfaction in life, then who is this God to punish me for it? I mean seriously. I'm not asking him for anything. I don't expect him to do anything for me. So who is he to demand faith from me, without even a shred of presence in my everyday life? I mean, by telerion's pubic hairs! That's bloody arrogant if you ask me.
There!
Have fun!
Originally posted by marinakatombCatholic schools these days are probably the worst place to learn about the Catholic faith. Better to have no notion of the faith so that, when one encounters it, one learns anew than to have the watered-down, adulterated versions seen in RE classes these days.
What you don't know is i went to a Catholic Church school for 12 years,
Originally posted by lucifershammerIs knowledge derived from old catechismic (is that the word?) documents the same as having an understanding of the same?
The Socratic method. I'm not sure what your point is.
Wouldn't I gain a deeper understanding if I could come to the conclusions myself? (Just give me the questions. Chop them up in smaller tidbits and allow me to derive my own answers.)
Or do you just repeat the questions and answers until you think you understand them? Like we learn the multiplication tables in elementary school?
Perhaps, if people were allowed to think for themselves, they wouldn't come to the same conclusions as the people behind your old dogmatic scriptures. That would be a shame, though. Wouldn't it?
Anyway. I guess what really bothers me is that your good God is such a bonehead. If I were almighty, I wouldn't punish anyone for using their (apparently) god-given right (freedom of thought). If they do good I'd encourage them and if they do bad I wouldn't. Whether they believe in me or not is completely irrelevant.