Originally posted by powershakeri agree with darvlays' comment regarding argueing with zealots. this will be my last post to you on this power shaker.
I do know that most people on here might plainly look at your outbursts of hatred, calling people fools and the like, and truly know the difference in a man of God and a man who says God does not exist. I would like an apology. No need to call each other names. Let's just speak the facts. Like I said, "I cannot prove that if I were to dip you in the ...[text shortened]... this world until they have turned to the Messiah Immanuel, who stands for GOD IS WITH US!
you say :"Let's just speak the facts." - "God lives!"
earlier you said that you could not prove that as 100% fact.
so technically by your own admission you are not talking fact.
i am glad that you have something to live for no matter how moronic it is. you have also stated that you still love me. i don't want your fake love. you know where to shove it.
i accept that despite the fact you can't prove it your thoughts will not change and i think it's about time that you realise that no matter how much you rant you're not going to change the mind of any atheist. mostly because you are a fully blown loon.
Originally posted by powershakerOh my god, I hope your death is as painful as it was for me reading your post ... you freak
Dear REDHOTPAWN participants and users,
I need to make you aware that if I should disappear and be raptured up into heaven to be with Jesus - or if I should not make any moves on RHP and all my games are timed out - that I am simply in heaven with Jesus. Israel has found out that Iran and Syria have been found guilty of being involved with the Tel Av ...[text shortened]... ne up in the rapture and disappeared from Earth to be with Jesus. Cheers! God Bless you All!
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Originally posted by powershakerYuck...you're a little too nutty for my taste. I would rather you answer my question concerning herd mentality.
Why don't you tell Jesus that when He arrives, LemonJello. However, I don't think you'll be doing that, because you'll end up on your knees awestruck by the power of the living God.
In short, your opinions are so noted. And since these opinions cannot be supported in any sufficiently competent way, I will continue to give them exactly the degree of consideration they merit -- no more, no less.
Cheers,
Originally posted by powershakerI asked for you to present the argument yourself rather than attempting to prop yourself up using quotes from entirely unprofessional angelfire websites and Dr. Dino (The man that even YECs think is crazy).
Because carbon dating is not accurate. God just created it all! it may be thousands of years old. But, never millions. And, in the Bible, Peter says a day to God could be a thousand years. But, we have more reason to believe in the Word of God scientifically than we have reason to believe in carbon dating. If you get the Dr. Dino series of tapes, h ...[text shortened]... e
Okay, now that that's over with. NEXT!
Just type in seal when you get there.
Also your list of things carbon dating assumes. I asked specifically about calibrated carbon dating. There are 15,000 year old trees, by counting rings and checking the level of isotopes in those rings we can determine what the levels were in the past 15,000 years. We can use these levels to determine dates. Also carbon dating only works on things that were once living and contain carbon, rocks cannot be carbon dated, despite what your beloved angelfire website claims.
Many of the articles that your website quotes (if they even exist, it seems a common tactic of creationists to quote non-existant articles safe in the belief that 99% of the people will not check their sources) will have follow-up articles explaining why the results were incorrect. Hell, some of the articles it quotes are from the 60s. Others were only published in a 'journal' called Creation Ex Nihilo which used to be sold through the Answers in Genesis website until they disowned the publication. Such a balanced and scientifically important source I have never seen.
Result: You've failed completely and utterly to do as I asked. If you cannot entirely disprove calibrated carbon dating then there is no need to continue this argument. The science clearly shows (and you show by being unable to discredit it) that the Earth is older than the Bible says.
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Originally posted by powershaker"... Don't go into quantum physics, because even quantum physics needs a "quantum vaccuum," and the "quantum vaccuum" has to have a creator also...."
Well, let's step back for a moment. Now, I say that "something" came from absolutely "nothing" by the power of the Lord God Creator. What do you say space, time and matter came from? Wouldn't it need a catalyst? So, basically, what I'm saying is no where near as weak as what you probably believe - which is "something" came from "nothing." Now, you ve in Jesus Christ. But, you can't. That's how sure I am.
A quantum vacuum is absolutely nothing , so how does nothing need a creator?
Seems like your jacking up the powers of God to the level of absurdity.
Originally posted by RolfeyI cannot prove there is a God as much as I cannot prove that the Sun will burn you alive if I dip you into it, Rolfey. That's my point. In other words, I'd be a fool to doubt the fiery Sun's power, and I'd also be a fool to doubt the power of the living God. That's my point.
i will respond in full to your morinic views later. I need to point out that my original statement on page 2 of this thread says that you can not prove there is a god. in your earlier comment on page 10 you admit you can not prove there is a god.
therefore my statement is correct.
rant and sing all you like, you are still a fool. Let me get my facts ...[text shortened]... points in my most recent large post.
will you need to run this through a translater ducky?
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Originally posted by frogstompObviously you don't understand the quantum vaccuum. It has to exist in order for quantum mechanics to exist. Where does it come from? What is it made of? Maybe the real answer is that there is no quantum vaccuum! That's just the phrase they give it to define the God they still will not put faith in - the one who is and was and always will be. Timeless. All Powerful. All Loving. Merciful. Just. And True! Holy is His name! Holy is Yahweh!
"... Don't go into quantum physics, because even quantum physics needs a "quantum vaccuum," and the "quantum vaccuum" has to have a creator also...."
A quantum vacuum is absolutely nothing , so how does nothing need a creator?
Seems like your jacking up the powers of God to the level of absurdity.
Originally posted by XanthosNZYeah, I'm sure you have all the answers. And, also, the angelfire website actually backs up its claims with reputable sources. I'm trying to show you that it's all true. And, by the way, if Dr. Dino is crazy, then why is it that no atheist can defeat him in a debate? You give me one example anywhere that Dr. Dino got beat by an atheist in a debate on the realities of God? You can't. You won't. Because, GOd Lives! And, no, they do not think Dr. Dino is crazy. It's just they dub him crazy because they cannot defeat his arguements. Isn't it obvious that the atheistic scientific community would likely try to tarnish the reputation of a man of God, just like they tried to tarnish the reputation of the living Son of God, Jesus Christ? Just like they said He did not raise from the grave in 3 days! Just like they said He never existed, but then they discovered sources outside the Bible showing He did! Just like they say we'll eventually figure out the answers to why our solar system by chance has hundreds of scales to balance in order to provide life for mankind, and they say it's because of rolling dice. We just happened to be the 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 and on and on and on galaxies that can support life. It was just by chance they say. Yeah, right! LOL! GOD IS!
I asked for you to present the argument yourself rather than attempting to prop yourself up using quotes from entirely unprofessional angelfire websites and Dr. Dino (The man that even YECs think is crazy).
Also your list of things carbon dating assumes. I asked specifically about calibrated carbon dating. There are 15,000 year old trees, by counting ri ...[text shortened]... s (and you show by being unable to discredit it) that the Earth is older than the Bible says.
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Originally posted by The Slow PawnI may be a freak! But, at least I'm a Jesus freak, and not an atheist freak! Call me a freak all you want, but God's got my back every day and every night. Jesus lives in my heart. I have nothing to fear no matter what this world brings and no matter what you call me. God bless you!
Oh my god, I hope your death is as painful as it was for me reading your post ... you freak
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Originally posted by powershakerI'm pretty sure you could prove that the Sun will burn Rolfey alive if you "dip him into it". You could use Wien's Law to determine the temperature of the sun and then compare that to the flashpoint of human flesh.
I cannot prove there is a God as much as I cannot prove that the Sun will burn you alive if I dip you into it, Rolfey. That's my point. In other words, I'd be a fool to doubt the fiery Sun's power, and I'd also be a fool to doubt the power of the living God. That's my point.
You should ask Jesus to help you come up with some better analogies. IF he's not busy solving world hunger or halting the spread of AIDS, that is.
Originally posted by frogstompWell, you just said it yourself, the "quantum vaccuum" is a sham! How can it be nothing??? Because, only God created everything. The "quantum vaccuum" is just a way of explaining the inexplicable source of "something" from "nothing." Thanks for helping me out there. 🙂
"... Don't go into quantum physics, because even quantum physics needs a "quantum vaccuum," and the "quantum vaccuum" has to have a creator also...."
A quantum vacuum is absolutely nothing , so how does nothing need a creator?
Seems like your jacking up the powers of God to the level of absurdity.
Originally posted by powershakerI addressed the so-called reputable sources of the dodgy site you referenced.
Yeah, I'm sure you have all the answers. And, also, the angelfire website actually backs up its claims with reputable sources. I'm trying to show you that it's all true. And, by the way, if Dr. Dino is crazy, then why is it that no atheist can defeat him in a debate? You give me one example anywhere that Dr. Dino got beat by an atheist in a debate on ...[text shortened]... ies that can support life. It was just by chance they say. Yeah, right! LOL! GOD IS!
On the point of debating Dr. Dino. Do respected geologists hold debates against Flat Earth believers? Of course not. Also Dr. (Patriot University is such a presigious school to have your Ph.D from) Dino will only debate in person or via teleconferencing. The problem with this is the kind of evidence required to disprove his wild unevidenced theories cannot be presented in such a form.
Also did you just compare Dr. Dino to Jesus?
http://www.usao.edu/~facshaferi/hovind.htm
Homework: Learn the difference between A causing B and B causing A. The specific example is A being the current human anatomy and B being the atmospheric, geologic and astrological situation of the Earth.