- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 28791
In another thread, a Christian made this casual statement:
"Atheism is only a temporary stop along the way to Satan worship."
In response, I would like to offer a rather contentious rebuttal. An atheist rejects the existence of God and with it all biblical myth, which includes stories of devils and demons. An atheist doesn't reject God in order to leave room for the devil, he rejects the whole biblical shebang. (That's not the contentious bit).
A Christian on the other hand, by virtue of believing in God and the Bible, also believes in the devil. (Something an atheist doesn't do). Is it therefore not logical that it is actually a Christian and not an atheist who is more liking to end up worshiping the devil, seeing as it is the Christian and not the atheist who actually believes in the devil?
Which is more likely, an atheist going on to worship something he doesn't believe in, or a Christian looking at the evil in the world, deciding the devil is winning the battle, and deciding therefore to switch allegiance? (Yep, that was the contentious bit).
- Joined
- 16 Feb 08
- Moves
- 117378
11 Mar 18
1 edit
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeAh, but you could be worshiping Satan without realising it.
In another thread, a Christian made this casual statement:
"Atheism is only a temporary stop along the way to Satan worship."
In response, I would like to offer a rather contentious rebuttal. An atheist rejects the existence of God and with it all biblical myth, which includes stories of devils and demons. An atheist doesn't reject God in or ...[text shortened]... g the battle, and deciding therefore to switch allegiance? (Yep, that was the contentious bit).
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNice thread. I would rather look this issue from the point of view of what Jesus sees. Jesus can see into the heart of man and judge the man by what he does. Actions tell the truth of whats in a mans heart and mind.
In another thread, a Christian made this casual statement:
"Atheism is only a temporary stop along the way to Satan worship."
In response, I would like to offer a rather contentious rebuttal. An atheist rejects the existence of God and with it all biblical myth, which includes stories of devils and demons. An atheist doesn't reject God in or ...[text shortened]... g the battle, and deciding therefore to switch allegiance? (Yep, that was the contentious bit).
A Christian can profess what he believes but only his actions tell the true tale.
An atheist likewise can profess what he believes but his actions show that he holds in high regard the teachings of Christ.
Some Christians are very superficial and are taken in by the words but fail to look at a mans actions. Sonship [Mr Extra-biblical], has that failing. He will condemn an atheist who quite likely are pleasing to Christ because of his works, but will look up to a Christian even though he might be evil.
As for an actual physical being called Satan, Im not sure that Bible supports that notion.
- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 28791
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterI think you stole sonship's thunder. 😉
Ah, but you could be worshiping Satan without realising it.
- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 28791
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Agreed. The biblical representation of the devil is primarily metaphorical. (The 'snake' and the like).
Nice thread. I would rather look this issue from the point of view of what Jesus sees. Jesus can see into the heart of man and judge the man by what he does. Actions tell the truth of whats in a mans heart and mind.
A Christian can profess what he believes but only his actions tell the true tale.
An atheist likewise can profess what he believes but his ...[text shortened]... .
As for an actual physical being called Satan, Im not sure that Bible supports that notion.
As an aside, my final dissertation was on the 'Personification of evil in world religions' and was not well received. (It counted as 2 modules and lowered my overall grade).
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeYou've merely expressed a convoluted rationale.
In another thread, a Christian made this casual statement:
"Atheism is only a temporary stop along the way to Satan worship."
In response, I would like to offer a rather contentious rebuttal. An atheist rejects the existence of God and with it all biblical myth, which includes stories of devils and demons. An atheist doesn't reject God in or ...[text shortened]... g the battle, and deciding therefore to switch allegiance? (Yep, that was the contentious bit).
The Bible is clear. There are two kingdoms placed before us in this life. The kingdom of light, and the kingdom of darkness.
Jesus is the light. Satan is the prince of darkness.
Your counter-convoluted assertion that because Christians believe in God and His revealed truth lends itself to the conclusion that Christians "end up worshipping the devil" is nothing short of what the Bible calls the "works of darkness".
"Darkness" is what prevents the atheists from knowing that Satan exists.
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThere is a very good argument that Satan is just a personification of sin or sin in the flesh. There is no being called Satan.
You've merely expressed a convoluted rationale.
The Bible is clear. There are two kingdoms placed before us in this life. The kingdom of light, and the kingdom of darkness.
Jesus is the light. Satan is the prince of darkness.
Your counter-convoluted assertion that because Christians believe in God and His revealed truth lends itself to the conclu ...[text shortened]... "works of darkness".
"Darkness" is what prevents the atheists from knowing that Satan exists.
There is good and righteous ie the Light of Christ
There is opposition to Christ which is all forms of sin and evil.
11 Mar 18
1 edit
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI wont mind having a read of that if you can somehow send a link or a file.
Agreed. The biblical representation of the devil is primarily metaphorical. (The 'snake' and the like).
As an aside, my final dissertation was on the 'Personification of evil in world religions' and was not well received. (It counted as 2 modules and lowered my overall grade).
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @rajk999"As for an actual physical being called Satan, Im not sure that Bible supports that notion."
Nice thread. I would rather look this issue from the point of view of what Jesus sees. Jesus can see into the heart of man and judge the man by what he does. Actions tell the truth of whats in a mans heart and mind.
A Christian can profess what he believes but only his actions tell the true tale.
An atheist likewise can profess what he believes but his ...[text shortened]... .
As for an actual physical being called Satan, Im not sure that Bible supports that notion.
Are you that ignorant? Neither God nor Satan are physical beings. But the Bible teaches that both exist.
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @rajk999And Jesus didn't literally rise from the dead either, right?
There is a very good argument that Satan is just a personification of sin or sin in the flesh. There is no being called Satan.
There is good and righteous ie the Light of Christ
There is opposition to Christ which is all forms of sin and evil.
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @secondsonShow me where the Bible says that Satan exist.
[b]"As for an actual physical being called Satan, Im not sure that Bible supports that notion."
Are you that ignorant? Neither God nor Satan are physical beings. But the Bible teaches that both exist.[/b]
- Joined
- 14 Mar 15
- Moves
- 28791
11 Mar 18
Originally posted by @secondsonIf an atheist doesn't know the devil exists, why (as sonship suggests) would an atheist worship him?
You've merely expressed a convoluted rationale.
The Bible is clear. There are two kingdoms placed before us in this life. The kingdom of light, and the kingdom of darkness.
Jesus is the light. Satan is the prince of darkness.
Your counter-convoluted assertion that because Christians believe in God and His revealed truth lends itself to the conclu ...[text shortened]... "works of darkness".
"Darkness" is what prevents the atheists from knowing that Satan exists.