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Spirituality

  1. Subscriber WOLFE63
    Fair and Balanced
    16 Feb '18 12:23
    I saw a bumper sticker not long ago. It stated:

    "Jesus, please save me from your followers!"

    Because this Forum seems to be dominated by Christian Theology; I think I'd rather enjoy learning about other beliefs and philosophies.

    The current right-wing religious movement in the USA is filled with hypocrisy and is driving me away.
  2. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 13:20
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    I saw a bumper sticker not long ago. It stated:

    "Jesus, please save me from your followers!"

    Because this Forum seems to be dominated by Christian Theology; I think I'd rather enjoy learning about other beliefs and philosophies.

    The current right-wing religious movement in the USA is filled with hypocrisy and is driving me away.
    I think it is more a question of quantity rather than quality.

    The forum may appeared dominated by Christian Theology (due to their long winded posts) but in actuality it is the atheist arguments that dominate and carry the real gravitas.


    😏
  3. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    16 Feb '18 15:31
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    I saw a bumper sticker not long ago. It stated:

    "Jesus, please save me from your followers!"

    Because this Forum seems to be dominated by Christian Theology; I think I'd rather enjoy learning about other beliefs and philosophies.

    The current right-wing religious movement in the USA is filled with hypocrisy and is driving me away.
    I was having a conversation with someone just the other day about how one determines a religion’s beliefs. She suggested leaders of the religion (such as pastors, priests, rabbis or imams) but I think it’s the religion’s source text, which, in Christianity, is the New Testament; in Judaism is the Torah (or first five books of the Old Testament) and in Islam is, I think, the Quran.

    Pastors, priests and imams will disagree about doctrine so, in my opinion, asking them is not the right way to know what a religion is all about. It certainly can’t hurt to hear the perspective of a leader of a particular religion but I don’t think one should buy into that perspective based solely on that leader’s words.

    Anyone know the source texts for Hinduism, Buddhism or any other prominent religions?
  4. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    16 Feb '18 15:32
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    I think it is more a question of quantity rather than quality.

    The forum may appeared dominated by Christian Theology (due to their long winded posts) but in actuality it is the atheist arguments that dominate and carry the real gravitas.


    😏
    <The forum may appeared dominated by Christian Theology (due to their long winded posts) but in actuality it is the atheist arguments that dominate and carry the real gravitas.>

    LOL
  5. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 15:47 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    I was having a conversation with someone just the other day about how one determines a religion’s beliefs. She suggested leaders of the religion (such as pastors, priests, rabbis or imams) but I think it’s the religion’s source text, which, in Christianity, is the New Testament; in Judaism is the Torah (or first five books of the Old Testament) and in Is ...[text shortened]... words.

    Anyone know the source texts for Hinduism, Buddhism or any other prominent religions?
    "Anyone know the source texts for Hinduism, Buddhism or any other prominent religions?"


    Yes.

    Genuine question. - Why don't you? - In other words, before becoming a Christian why didn't you explore the other religions out there? (If for no other reason than to discount them).
  6. 16 Feb '18 16:00
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    <The forum may appeared dominated by Christian Theology (due to their long winded posts) but in actuality it is the atheist arguments that dominate and carry the real gravitas.>

    LOL
    Yes, almost all of us feel secure in our beliefs; secure enough to laugh at those who suggest we are threatened..But some of us thrive on casting ourselves as being under threat.
  7. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    16 Feb '18 16:07
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    "Anyone know the source texts for Hinduism, Buddhism or any other prominent religions?"


    Yes.

    Genuine question. - Why don't you? - In other words, before becoming a Christian why didn't you explore the other religions out there? (If for no other reason than to discount them).
    Because once the evidence for Christ’s divinity, purpose of His Crucifixion and His Resurrection convinced me that Christianity was true, why would I bother investigating religions that did not recognize it?
  8. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 16:11
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    Because once the evidence for Christ’s divinity, purpose of His Crucifixion and His Resurrection convinced me that Christianity was true, why would I bother investigating religions that did not recognize it?
    "If you find a good move, look for a better one."

    Emanuel Lasker
  9. Standard member sonshiponline
    the corrected one.
    16 Feb '18 16:17
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    "If you find a good move, look for a better one."

    Emanuel Lasker
    My favorite chess playing rule.
  10. Standard member Romans1009
    Cretinous Mutterings
    16 Feb '18 16:21
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    "If you find a good move, look for a better one."

    Emanuel Lasker
    That’s a good principle in chess, depending on how much time is left on the clock, but a proper examination of every religion, or even only the major ones, would be quite time consuming, and, in my opinion, not worth the investment.
  11. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 16:21
    Originally posted by @sonship
    My favorite chess playing rule.
    Then why not apply that philosophy when looking for a religion?
  12. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 16:24
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    That’s a good principle in chess, depending on how much time is left on the clock, but a proper examination of every religion, or even only the major ones, would be quite time consuming, and, in my opinion, not worth the investment.
    How would you know?

    What if Lasker said it wasn't worth the time investment looking for a better move, and ended up overlooking a queen capture?
  13. Standard member sonshiponline
    the corrected one.
    16 Feb '18 16:41 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    I think it is more a question of quantity rather than quality.

    The forum may appeared dominated by Christian Theology (due to their long winded posts) but in actuality it is the atheist arguments that dominate and carry the real gravitas.


    😏
    You might notice. (I don't know) that when some others come speaking of their spirituality which is pointedly non-Christian - I do not interfere.

    They have a right here to write about it.
    And "most talked about" is not to me "dominated by".

    I may interject when I read something pointedly AGAINST the Gospel of Christ. I do not automatically try to derail threads which are voices of other spiritual interests, Reincarnation, Buddhism, Zen, Atheism, Bahai, Hinduism, etc. My Own Special Individualized Spirituality - ism.

    JW's by nature calls for rebuttal because it perverts the New Testament.

    I think it has always been an equal opportunity Forum here.
  14. 16 Feb '18 17:22
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    I saw a bumper sticker not long ago. It stated:

    "Jesus, please save me from your followers!"

    Because this Forum seems to be dominated by Christian Theology; I think I'd rather enjoy learning about other beliefs and philosophies.

    The current right-wing religious movement in the USA is filled with hypocrisy and is driving me away.
    I am sorry that you feel that way .But that is some kind of unfair element of pride, my friend, to think that you are better than the flawed followers of Christ...

    But, MORE IMPORTANTLY, take a look at how Islam performs in the Middle East and how Buddhism performs in Myanmar and Sri Lanka and Thailand and, even here, in South Korea.

    The second that you put the magnifying glass on any culture, religion, or society, you will notice right off that there is a particular problem where humans tend to poorly execute all religions and use them as clubs to mess each other up.

    Point being, the "alternatives" don't actually end up liberating you from the problem that you find among the Christians around you.
  15. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    16 Feb '18 17:49
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    I am sorry that you feel that way .But that is some kind of unfair element of pride, my friend, to think that you are better than the flawed followers of Christ...

    But, MORE IMPORTANTLY, take a look at how Islam performs in the Middle East and how Buddhism performs in Myanmar and Sri Lanka and Thailand and, even here, in South Korea.

    The second t ...[text shortened]... t actually end up liberating you from the problem that you find among the Christians around you.
    Psst,....the Crusades.