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Originally posted by @fmf
Blimey. I'm not sure what kind of gotcha! point you think you're making here. You should take a little longer to reply maybe.

Do you think I am wrong about Suzianne? Do you think both Suzianne and I are angry?
I have not perceived hostility in her posts towards me, so I don't view her as angry per se. You on the other hand may perceive hostility in her post towards you, so maybe you would view her as angry but that is on you.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If I perceive you as being hostile according to the dictionary definition of 'angry' you are 'angry' by my perception. Because 'angry' is defined as a 'feeling of hostility'. The one perceiving the hostility has the right to view you as 'angry' even if you don't think you are being hostile or angry.
Well, now you know I am not angry.

"Anger" is a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.

I have none of those feelings when I post.

The idea that being "angry" is when one SHOWS strong feelings of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility, surely presupposes - if a person is truly and actually angry - that those feelings actually exist.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
You on the other hand may perceive hostility in Suzianne's post towards you, so maybe you would view her as angry but that is on you.
I'm not talking about whether she's ever angry with you. Do you think Suzianne is ever actually angry with me?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
The same goes for psychological abuse, hey?
What does?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
The same goes for psychological abuse, hey?
Bingo.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Well, now you know I am not angry.

"Anger" is a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.

I have none of those feelings when I post.

The idea that being "angry" is when one SHOWS strong feelings of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility, surely presupposes - if a person is truly and actually angry - that those feelings actually exist.
You said a minute ago "hostility" is in the eye of the Beholding Recipient™.

You are now withdrawing your trademark comment?

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Originally posted by @fmf
I'm not talking about whether she's ever angry with you. Do you think Suzianne is ever actually angry with me?
You said "hostility" is in the eye of the Beholding Recipient. You are the 'beholding recipient' of her 'hostility'. Do you want me to read your mind as well?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
You said a minute ago "hostility" is in the eye of the Beholding Recipient™.

You are now withdrawing tour trademark comment?
Withdrawing it? No, not at all. Of course not. If someone feels I am hostile and, because of that, assumes that I a feel anger or that I am angry, then they are mistaken. Hostile is a word that crops up, along with some other words, in a definition that seeks to explain anger. Hostility and Anger are not synonyms.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
You said "hostility" is in the eye of the Beholding Recipient. You are the 'beholding recipient' of her 'hostility'. Do you want me to read your mind as well?
I perceive actual anger in Suzianne, as opposed to an affectation. Do you? Or do you perceive that she is not actually angry?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Withdrawing it. No, not at all. If someone feels I am hostile and, because of that, assumes I a feel angry or I am angry, then they are mistaken. Hostile is a word that crops up, along with some other words, in a definition that seeks to explain anger. Hostility and Anger are not synonyms.
Not according to the dictionary definition.

angry:
adjective
feeling or showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you want me to read your mind as well?
You've already tried to read my mind: you claimed I am angry when I post 90% of the time. When you attempt to read Suzianne's mind in a similar way, do you also perceive her as angry a lot of the time when she posts?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Not according to the dictionary definition.

angry:
adjective
feeling or showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility
Well. according to this definition, I am not angry. I do not have strong feelings of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility. You may think that those feelings are there, and, furthermore, you may think that they are strong, but if those feelings do not exist then I cannot be described as angry. If I had those feelings but didn't show them, then you would not know I was angry. If I did have those feelings and I did show them, then, as the definition says, you could describe me as angry.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Withdrawing it? No, not at all. Of course not. If someone feels I am hostile and, because of that, assumes that I a feel anger or that I am angry, then they are mistaken. Hostile is a word that crops up, along with some other words, in a definition that seeks to explain anger. Hostility and Anger are not synonyms.
If I were to feel that you are showing showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility I would be totally justified in believing you are angry. Why? Because they dictionary defines 'angry' as 'showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility'.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If I were to feel that you are showing showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility I would be totally justified in believing you are angry. Why? Because they dictionary defines 'angry' as 'showing strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility'.
Do you still believe I am angry?

As for the sophistry that you are using with the word "showing", see my previous post.

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Originally posted by @fmf
You've already tried to read my mind: you claimed I am angry when I post 90% of the time. When you attempt to read Suzianne's mind in a similar way, do you also perceive her as angry a lot of the time when she posts?
90% (this is a rough figure) of your posts, to me at least, exhibit strong annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.

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