Originally posted by jaywill
1.)
If there is an ultimate and final good, final goodness and beauty, a final rightness, and righteousness, a final Governor with a final adminisration of final rightness, justice, equity, beyond which there is no other umpire or decider - a final and perfect Arbitrator
AND
2.) there is a free will to decide, to choose, to determine which co ...[text shortened]... plenty of room for things left unsaid which the critic may point out as gaping "problems".
Would you say that we have free will, to allign ourselves with "God's Will"?
This is the sort of psychological idea(s) that I could work with.
Remember I see "sin" as "god-eclipsing" , so it's not necessarily just a matter of not committing a "bad act" (as I see christians explain sin).
To take another path to this I would remind you of what the "eastern mystics" say about karma .(Karma being akin to "sin " in many ways).
They say that first we must rid ourselves of bad karma and accumulate good karma. We are not supposed to hold onto good karma. We are supposed to (intelligently/diligently), spread our good karma to help others.
Once karma is understood, (the best way is to see the karma in your own life, and designate it-"keep the flow going"- not to accumulate).
The ultimate goal is to rid ourselves of all karma and be 'born' into Nirvana , karmaless and desireless. To understand the role of karma in our lives and realize that we are moving out of the "Law of Karma" and into the "Law of "Grace" " - which is not unlike the "Grace" that christians sometimes talk about.
Although I'm not sure there are any christian teachings that inform us the "souls" journey from the Law of Karma to the Law of Grace as well as say Buddhism does.
Buddhism is the best system of psychology I have come across. It is complete (for me anyway, although I did need other info to infuse with, to understand that properly.)
There is no need to mention a god or any other "divine entities" with buddhism-despite there being more buddhists statues of Gautama Buddha than any other religious figure.
Buddhism can be viewed as a system of psychology and when once one has read Yung (amongst others) then it becomes clear. The vision. The path (dharma). And one's own relationship with these metaphysical things.
The freedom (free will) to do with as we please, or possibly try for that one in ten thousand shot at "getting that sperm into the egg" is actually a narrow narrow road, but a road none the less, which will bring peace and understanding,etc. to the genuine seeker who has understood the psychology, the steps (tailored to the individual seeker), and lastly the conviction, without which there will be no success (for that little sperm )