Was Jesus Moral?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
very first line begins with an assumption, i quote,

Salvation means being saved from the power of sin and from hell, the eternal
penalty of that sin.

it them goes on to state , in unequivocal terms, that the author has not the slightest
idea what they are talking about,

Other common terms for salvation are being saved, going to heaven, ...[text shortened]... , author should be taken outside, tied to a whipping post and
thoroughly given a good whuppin!

I should have known better.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie

this not only betrays a lack of depth and understanding as to these specific terms,
to make them synonymous with one another betrays a lack of depth and
understanding, author should be taken outside, tied to a whipping post and
thoroughly given a good whuppin!

...and sent to hell?

Originally posted by 667joe
Can some one explain to me how Jesus could be moral for sending a person to hell just because said person did not believe in him (Jesus)?

No one is being sent to Hell for NOT believing, what they will be sent to Hell
for is the sin in their lives.
Kelly

Originally posted by 667joe
Can some one explain to me how Jesus could be moral for sending a person to hell just because said person did not believe in him (Jesus)?

Who doesn't believe in Him?

Originally posted by jimslyp69
...and sent to hell?

Made to read reams of jawills and dasa texts and joes platitudes, punishment enough
for any man.!

Originally posted by 667joe
Can some one explain to me how Jesus could be moral for sending a person to hell just because said person did not believe in him (Jesus)?

People are already going there. He came to seek and save the lost.

Originally posted by 667joe
Is it not a threat of Christianity that if you don't believe in Jesus, you will go to hell and further that if you do accept Jesus no matter how bad you may have been, you will be forgiven and avoid hell?

He died for both good and bad people.

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is the Marxist-communist idea - the end justifies the means.

Then you must be a commie.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Made to read reams of jawills and dasa texts and joes platitudes, punishment enough
for any man.!

This one's short, just for you.

Hebrews 5:11

Originally posted by 667joe
Can some one explain to me how Jesus could be moral for sending a person to hell just because said person did not believe in him (Jesus)?

The question could be phrased a little differently and in two parts.

First, does God or Jesus (the same?) have the power to prevent people (or souls) from going to hell. Second, if so, is God or Jesus moral for letting a good person go to hell simply because that good person did not accept Jesus as savior.

Originally posted by 667joe
Jesus said, " If a man not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." John 15:6.

He also said, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28

Originally posted by moon1969
The question could be phrased a little differently and in two parts.

First, does God or Jesus (the same?) have the power to prevent people (or souls) from going to hell. Second, if so, is God or Jesus moral for letting a good person go to hell simply because that good person did not accept Jesus as savior.

Don't you understand that if you are given a choice to to good or evil
and you know the difference and you know the consequence of your
action, then you also choose to go to Heaven or Hell? If you choose
evil you are not fit to go to heaven so you go where you belong.
Believing and trusting in Jesus as your Lord and Savior is the same
as turning from evil and choosing good. That is true justice.

"Believing and trusting in Jesus as your Lord and Savior is the same
as turning from evil and choosing good."

That's it? What happens if you don't follow the teachings of Jesus after you profess to the above?
Suppose you follow the teachings of Jesus but were not brought up as a Christian and follow the practices of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism?

Let's say folks go to hell - can they then repent and go into heaven?

These are all questions ons has to ask oneself - I think.

Originally posted by moon1969
The question could be phrased a little differently and in two parts.

First, does God or Jesus (the same?) have the power to prevent people (or souls) from going to hell. Second, if so, is God or Jesus moral for letting a good person go to hell simply because that good person did not accept Jesus as savior.

third: Is there a hell? Fourth: If there is a hell, then what is it's nature.



You presume too much....

Originally posted by kbear1k
"Believing and trusting in Jesus as your Lord and Savior is the same
as turning from evil and choosing good."

That's it? What happens if you don't follow the teachings of Jesus after you profess to the above?
Suppose you follow the teachings of Jesus but were not brought up as a Christian and follow the practices of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism? ...[text shortened]... hen repent and go into heaven?

These are all questions ons has to ask oneself - I think.

G'day from down under.

Dont think I've had the pleasure before, but lets see..

1. Do you believe in Hell? (ie Eternal damnation/suffering/[insert own])

2. Do you believe that Jesus is the only "way"?

3. Lets say that I've kept my mind open, and am ready to respond and "get in touch with"/"be harmonious with" whatever entity presents itself to me ,(I have to assume that real Divine entities are eternal and are therefor sexless), lets just say that Buddha came and talked to me but Jesus has said nothing all my life to me?
Am I misinterpretting my experiences or was that really Buddha?

What say you, great bear?

(BTW, I've already considered your questions many times before and wish to waste no time in repeating myself to the forum, unless I really, Really, have to)