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    How could Jesus be LUCIFER For christ sake. Do you really think the devil would spend his life healing and feeding people. A more acceptable quesrion to post would have been WAS JUDAS LUCIFER? Get a grip idiots.
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    Steponup....im with you....so glad someone feels the same way as me....i have been trying to tell these "idiots" that and had no sense from them!!!! .....Thank you !!!
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    19 Jun '07 14:09
    no worries and people rather than keep it SINFUL try and keep it SIMPLE
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    Originally posted by steponup
    no worries and people rather than keep it SINFUL try and keep it SIMPLE
    AMEN......
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    19 Jun '07 21:53
    Originally posted by steponup
    How could Jesus be LUCIFER For christ sake. Do you really think the devil would spend his life healing and feeding people. A more acceptable quesrion to post would have been WAS JUDAS LUCIFER? Get a grip idiots.
    I see you didn't read the article.

    It does not say that Jesus = Satan. It is saying that the name 'Lucifer' is misapplied to 'Satan.'
    That is, Lucifer Satan.

    Given that the term 'Lucifer' was used in the place of 'Morning Star' and given that no place in the
    Bible ever says that the Morning Star was Satan, and given that it does say positive things about
    the Morning Star, one rightly concludes that the Morning Star = Christ.

    The word 'Lucifer' in your Bible is a mistake. Get this through your head. Then read the
    article.

    Was Judas the Morning Star? No.

    Nemesio
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    20 Jun '07 14:42
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    I see you didn't read the article.

    It does not say that Jesus = Satan. It is saying that the name 'Lucifer' is misapplied to 'Satan.'
    That is, Lucifer Satan.

    Given that the term 'Lucifer' was used in the place of 'Morning Star' and given that no place in the
    Bible ever says that the Morning Star was Satan, and given that it does say positive thin ...[text shortened]... gh your head. Then read the
    article.

    Was Judas the Morning Star? No.

    Nemesio
    Bible...a mistake..... i think not!!!!!!
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    20 Jun '07 14:50
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    Bible...a mistake..... i think not!!!!!!
    You are a dim-witted, illiterate, incoherent fool.

    The 'Bible' doesn't say Lucifer. That's the whole point. One bad translation of the Bible reads
    'Lucifer' when it should say 'Morning Star,' and this perpetuated the wrong notion that Satan =
    Lucifer (which it does not).

    Nemesio
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    20 Jun '07 16:161 edit
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    You are a dim-witted, illiterate, incoherent fool.

    The 'Bible' doesn't say Lucifer. That's the whole point. One bad translation of the Bible reads
    'Lucifer' when it should say 'Morning Star,' and this perpetuated the wrong notion that Satan =
    Lucifer (which it does not).

    Nemesio
    You are a wonderful,charming,beautiful creature of God..... your ability to call me names is a gift from LUCIFER....or Satan....or Beast.....devil.....

    I hope your charm brightens many a persons day...

    God bless you.

    😵

    Just curious....tell me more about "morning star"?
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    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    You are a wonderful,charming,beautiful creature of God..... your ability to call me names is a gift from LUCIFER....or Satan....or Beast.....devil.....

    I hope your charm brightens many a persons day...

    God bless you.

    😵

    Just curious....tell me more about "morning star"?
    Lucifer is not Satan. The word 'Lucifer' does not exist in any accurate translation of the Bible.

    Get this through your thick skull.
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    Originally posted by Nemesio
    Lucifer is not Satan. The word 'Lucifer' does not exist in any accurate translation of the Bible.

    Get this through your thick skull.
    God bless you!!!
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    Wow, this thread is still going? Didn't expect that.
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    21 Jun '07 09:36
    Originally posted by Marinkatomb
    Wow, this thread is still going? Didn't expect that.
    The love for God keeps it going my friend!!!
  13. Standard memberMarinkatomb
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    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    The love for God keeps it going my friend!!!
    Do you spend your whole time here saying the same thing or what? Where's the debate?
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    21 Jun '07 11:20
    Originally posted by Jay Joos
    God bless you!!!
    Lets try this really slowly.

    1) Do you understand that the bible has had many translations?

    2) Do you understand that those translations have the effect of changing words?

    3) Do you understand that the word Lucifer is correctly translated as Morning Star?

    4) Do you understand that at some point in history that the word Lucifer became wrongly connected to Satan?

    5) Do you understand that the correct use of Lucifer is to describe those people that have the title Morning Star (i.e. Adam, Jesus)?

    6) Do you understand that nobody is saying Jesus is Satan?
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    21 Jun '07 12:04
    Originally posted by Starrman
    Lets try this really slowly.

    1) Do you understand that the bible has had many translations?

    2) Do you understand that those translations have the effect of changing words?

    3) Do you understand that the word Lucifer is correctly translated as Morning Star?

    4) Do you understand that at some point in history that the word Lucifer became wrongly con ...[text shortened]... Morning Star (i.e. Adam, Jesus)?

    6) Do you understand that nobody is saying Jesus is Satan?
    Yeeesssss....i understand.....i understood from the beginning.... i just like to see how people react when other people disagree....its called a debate!!!
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