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    25 Nov '12 21:27
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
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    25 Nov '12 21:441 edit
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    I enjoy debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after. 🙂
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    25 Nov '12 21:52
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    i come on for a few reasons. i dont wish to offend here, but ill be honest. i find the fact people believe in god bizarre, ive never had the chance to ask questions and try to understand why people believe in god. my mother and many of my relatives are christians but not the type that like to debate or talk about it. hence why i ask so many questions.

    i also find religion interesting. i like history and mythology, but knew little about the bible. talking to religious people on here has encouraged me to learn more about religion. ive learnt tonnes and gotten rid of a few misconceptions.

    on a similar theme my daughter was interested in christianity, so by learning how christians explain the things i find hard to understand would help me support her.

    i also like to have a good old fashioned argument.
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    25 Nov '12 22:16
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    because spirituality doesn't equal religion
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    25 Nov '12 22:28
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    i come on for a few reasons. i dont wish to offend here, but ill be honest. i find the fact people believe in god bizarre, ive neve...[text shortened]..a good old fashioned argument.
    Very nice, I appreciate your reply.
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    25 Nov '12 22:29
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    because spirituality doesn't equal religion
    Perhaps, what does spirituality mean to you?
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    25 Nov '12 22:34
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    I enjoy debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after. 🙂
    Thanks for the reply.
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    25 Nov '12 22:49
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    Do we really know our motivations? I ask this because I am not sure of mine. But it is the first question. Am I or anyone you ask a reliable reporter on this question.?
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    25 Nov '12 22:59
    Originally posted by JS357
    Do we really know our motivations? I ask this because I am not sure of mine. But it is the first question. Am I or anyone you ask a reliable reporter on this question.?
    You have an opinion, don't you? If not you then who?
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    25 Nov '12 23:16
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    i find the fact people believe in god bizarre
    Bizarre, as opposed to normal? If so, how is normal defined, if not by what the vast majority practices?
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    25 Nov '12 23:241 edit
    Originally posted by sumydid
    Bizarre, as opposed to normal? If so, how is normal defined, if not by what the vast majority practices?
    i think its possible for an individual to find things done by the majority bizarre, dont you? this does not necessarily make the activity of the mass bizarre. its all relative to perspective.

    i would also point out that at one point the majority thought the world was flat. normal does not equal correct.
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    25 Nov '12 23:46
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    Spirituality and atheism are not mutually exclusive.
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    26 Nov '12 00:12
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    It's a question I have been wondering about for a little while. Why do atheist frequent a spirituality forum? It seems contrarian to me. Are there any atheists that can answer this honest question?
    I found it odd at first when I got here. Mind you it was my first time in a 'chat room', first time on the net ,actually. (I wanted to play chess after my initial porn fixation was satisfied (2-3weeks)....hey be honest, I've read the figures on how many people look that stuff up, plus now I could look at pics for free which cost 30-40buks a mag,but I digress ) .

    I think it's all about freedom of speech. I think that if a spiritualist or religionist or whatever term you may loosely apply to someone who "thinks there is more to life than what the scientific establishment says (and predicts)", who basically believes in some aspect of 'magic' or the 'supernatural', (etc.). (you get the gist? ..i hope you get the gist ..)

    If you have a solid basis for your (religious) ideas then they should stand up to scrutiny. Good "spiritualism",(I'm not sure I'm using that term correctly), should not only stand up to criticism, but it should also offer something to "all people", imo.

    It may seem contrarian to you but as much as humans like to try to make the world predictable/dependable, explainable in one dimensional logic, give you a linear view of life (ie you are born-you live- you die. Period nothing more ), able to be defined by (CURRENT) mathematical logic,etc.,etc, this is simply not the case.

    We create the world with our minds, more precisely ,we co-create the world with our MIND. (you thought I was going to say "minds" right? instead of "Mind", with a big "m" and not even any inverted commas. )

    So basically that's as much as I can say here, because of the diverging linguistical interpretations of the last sentences (the ones starting with "We create..." ,everyone is going to get a different message. Capice? (You will need specific questions if you wish to continue)
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    26 Nov '12 00:14
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    You have an opinion, don't you? If not you then who?
    I take more and more that I and by extension we are not reliable reporters on our motivations. Much of what we say is self serving justification even if we don' know it (although the people who have replied so far are pretty reasonable.) At least I think this is a dependable first assumption, not to simply accept things at face value.
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    26 Nov '12 00:19
    Originally posted by JS357
    Do we really know our motivations? I ask this because I am not sure of mine. But it is the first question. Am I or anyone you ask a reliable reporter on this question.?
    you seem like the kind of guy that is drawn to the most interesting threads on here (whether on this forum or others), but thats just my observation 🙂
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