Personally, I think much of what God does and allows is to reveal what we are. A thief will steal given the opportunity, and an adulterer will be unfaithful given the opportunity. So the bad and good things in life reveal what we are, so God doesn’t worry about the material world hardly at all; it is temporal, while we are eternal beings. This world will pass away, and everything in it, compared to someone made in God’s image, makes the world less important.
How I treat others, then, becomes extremely important, because they are made in God’s image, and Christ died for them just as he did for me. Being conformed into the image of God is like being a rock chiselled for use in the building of a temple; it can be painful at times, but once the cutting is done, we are ready, as our sanctification is complete. If I’m not mistaken, the first temple, the rocks were cut not at the temple to be used when they built it, but at the quarry; here may be heaven’s quarry.
How does James put it: “count it all joy”? Another reason we cannot look at our lives and see who God is happy with. Our sanctification can be painful, but in the end, all glory to God, as He makes a sinner more Christ-like.
Here we can do things that cannot be done in Heaven: feed the poor, give grace to someone who harmed us, help the needy, speak truth at a cost, be faithful when it could cost us our lives, right wrongs, and protect those in danger. How we approach life matters, the end matters, and what we put our faith in matters.
@KellyJay saidWhat are you going to do in heaven?
Personally, I think much of what God does and allows is to reveal what we are. A thief will steal given the opportunity, and an adulterer will be unfaithful given the opportunity. So the bad and good things in life reveal what we are, so God doesn’t worry about the material world hardly at all; it is temporal, while we are eternal beings. This world will pass away, and every ...[text shortened]... God, as He makes a sinner more Christ-like.
Here we can do things that cannot be done in Heaven:
Your example, not predictable to grasp, could be Freemasonry. Which started out as operative masonry and in the intervening, liminal ages of developing built into speculative masonry. Its frat guild members accepted over the centuries, comfort or solidarity in rites and symbols of the stonemason craft.
Just picture the ancients trying to interpret miraculous events happening around them. They were a memory device. The ancients didn't need to remember them. They were meant to be written and sorta distilled for a later interpretation.
@KellyJay saidSo, for you, life is just a rehearsal. A means to an end. The real show comes later.
Personally, I think much of what God does and allows is to reveal what we are. A thief will steal given the opportunity, and an adulterer will be unfaithful given the opportunity. So the bad and good things in life reveal what we are, so God doesn’t worry about the material world hardly at all; it is temporal, while we are eternal beings. This world will pass away, and every ...[text shortened]... hose in danger. How we approach life matters, the end matters, and what we put our faith in matters.
@KellyJay
“ Here we can do things that cannot be done in Heaven: feed the poor, give grace to someone who harmed us, help the needy, speak truth at a cost, be faithful when it could cost us our lives, right wrongs, and protect those in danger. How we approach life matters, the end matters, and what we put our faith in matters.”
You don’t need religion to do all of these things. The greatest illusion of all theists is to take the moral high ground in these issues. I don’t need a supernatural dictator claiming magical powers and unquestionable authority to tell me to be a good person. Objective morality is a fantasy woven by religions.
@Pianoman1 saidI beg to disagree. @kellyjay most certainly does need religion. He's welcome to it. I'm just glad his co-religionists no longer have the power to burn people such as you and me at the stake for thought-crime.
@KellyJay
“ Here we can do things that cannot be done in Heaven: feed the poor, give grace to someone who harmed us, help the needy, speak truth at a cost, be faithful when it could cost us our lives, right wrongs, and protect those in danger. How we approach life matters, the end matters, and what we put our faith in matters.”
You don’t need religion to do all of these ...[text shortened]... onable authority to tell me to be a good person. Objective morality is a fantasy woven by religions.
@moonbus saidYou don’t need to be religious to put someone away for thinking contrary to the herd; people are jailed in England now, aren’t they, for writing posts?
I beg to disagree. @kellyjay most certainly does need religion. He's welcome to it. I'm just glad his co-religionists no longer have the power to burn people such as you and me at the stake for thought-crime.
@KellyJay saidQuite right, there are people everywhere who are prepared to hurt or even kill others for being or thinking differently. Whoever thinks he has a monopoly on truth eventually thinks he has a mandate to impose it on everyone else.
You don’t need to be religious to put someone away for thinking contrary to the herd; people are jailed in England now, aren’t they, for writing posts?
@KellyJay saidI think you’re confusing England with Russia. You should think very carefully , however, about referring to injustice.; there has been, and still is, more injustice in this world committed in the name of religion than any other cause.
You don’t need to be religious to put someone away for thinking contrary to the herd; people are jailed in England now, aren’t they, for writing posts?
@Pianoman1 saidNo, I am not.
I think you’re confusing England with Russia. You should think very carefully , however, about referring to injustice.; there has been, and still is, more injustice in this world committed in the name of religion than any other cause.
https://freepressers.com/articles/britains-thought-police-say-theyll-arrest-anyone-anywhere
@Pianoman1 saidThe frequency does not matter who does it more or less if they are all doing it, but even if it is selective now, it does not mean it will not happen with greater frequency later, since it is occurring, it is being normalized.
I think you’re confusing England with Russia. You should think very carefully , however, about referring to injustice.; there has been, and still is, more injustice in this world committed in the name of religion than any other cause.
@KellyJay saidPlease write this in understandable English. Your post is incomprehensible to me.
The frequency does not matter who does it more or less if they are all doing it, but even if it is selective now, it does not mean it will not happen with greater frequency later, since it is occurring, it is being normalized.
@Pianoman1 saidIf you are doing it more than the next guy, it doesn’t make you better; you are both doing it.
Please write this in understandable English. Your post is incomprehensible to me.