What is important

@Pianoman1 said
Trump wandered into the National Prayer Breakfast the other day like a man who’d accidentally been scheduled for a revival service in between a rally and a grievance deposition, and proceeded to deliver what can only be described as a theological Mad Libs stitched together with ego, revenge fantasies, and intermittent references to God as a kind of celestial brand sponsor. ...[text shortened]... the podium, soaking up applause?



#USPolitics #PrayerBreakfast #kakistocracy #Authoritarianism

Those people worship a deluded demagogue, not God.

@Suzianne said
Real Christianity (Yes, I know that sounds like the True Scotsman analogy) depicts a life here on Earth, to help our brothers live their lives to the fullest, led by Jesus' advice how to follow God, not trying to beat each other down.

" ... I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." -- John 10:10, KJV

False Christianity focuses o ...[text shortened]... ng, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." -- John 10:16, KJV

I'm not the first to point out that many of the people who think themselves Christians worship religion, not God, and even then only intermittently.

@moonbus said
I'm not the first to point out that many of the people who think themselves Christians worship religion, not God, and even then only intermittently.

Yes, at best.

Most "Christian"s today don't bother going to church. At all.

@Suzianne said
Yes, at best.

Most "Christian"s today don't bother going to church. At all.

This is what Christianity has devolved into--I kid you not:

https://www.kingdomwrestling.org/wrestlingchurch

It's all either spectacle or politics. Nothing to do with Jesus anymore.

@moonbus said
This is what Christianity has devolved into--I kid you not:

https://www.kingdomwrestling.org/wrestlingchurch

It's all either spectacle or politics. Nothing to do with Jesus anymore.

Holy cow.

"you will know them by their fruits" indeed.

I bet 90% of these people don't stick around for the sermon.

Remember, at the Sermon on the Mount, the meal was basically an afterthought. Not the whole point of the story.

@Suzianne said
Holy cow.

"you will know them by their fruits" indeed.

I bet 90% of these people don't stick around for the sermon.

Remember, at the Sermon on the Mount, the meal was basically an afterthought. Not the whole point of the story.

That's not all.

Go to youtube and search on "clown mass."



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@moonbus said
That's not all.

Go to youtube and search on "clown mass."



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I had not heard of this. I kinda see where they were going with this, but this "swing and a miss" is definitely not what Vatican 2 intended.

This is the Vatican giving an inch and some dioceses taking a mile.

@Suzianne said
I had not heard of this. I kinda see where they were going with this, but this "swing and a miss" is definitely not what Vatican 2 intended.

This is the Vatican giving an inch and some dioceses taking a mile.

Trying to make Christianity 'relevant.'

I dare say, if many people who think they are Christians knew what their religion really demands of them, they would be shocked.

@moonbus said
Trying to make Christianity 'relevant.'

I dare say, if many people who think they are Christians knew what their religion really demands of them, they would be shocked.

People who are not Christians who think they know what is demanded would be shocked.

@KellyJay said
People who are not Christians who think they know what is demanded would be shocked.

I have noted, in this forum as well as in the real world, that educated nonChristians often know better than those who think they are Christians, what their religion actually demands.

Not hard to understand, given that a survey found that 12% of Americans--that's over 30 million people, for Christ's sake!--believe that Joan of Arc (so spelled) was married to Noah of the Ark (so spelled).

https://www.thepoke.com/2026/02/20/people-discovered-that-12-per-cent-of-americans-think-joan-of-arc-was-married-to-noah/


Biblical illiteracy is rampant in America, as study after study confirms.


A sample quote:

Exploring Religious America Survey of 2002 reports that over 84 percent of Americans consider the Bible to be “very” or “somewhat important” in helping them make decisions in life, recent Gallup polls tell us that only half can name even one of the four Gospels, only a third are able to identify the individual who delivered the Sermon on the Mount, and most aren’t even able to identify Genesis as the Bible’s opening text.

Upon hearing these figures (and many more are readily available), some among us may be tempted to seek odd solace in the recognition that our culture is increasingly post-Christian. Perhaps these general population studies are misplaced in holding secular people to Christian standards. Much to our embarrassment, however, it has become increasingly clear that the situation is really no better among confessing Christians, even those who claim to hold the Bible in high regard. Again, numerous studies are available for those seeking further reason to be depressed. In a 2004 Gallup study of over one thousand American teens, nearly 60 percent of those who self-identified as evangelical were not able to correctly identify Cain as the one who said, “Am I my brother’s keeper?” and over half could not identify either “Blessed are the poor in spirit” as a quote from the Sermon on the Mount or “the road to Damascus” as the place where Saul/Paul’s blinding vision occurred.

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source:

https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-problem-of-evangelical-biblical-illiteracy

@moonbus said
I have noted, in this forum as well as in the real world, that educated nonChristians often know better than those who think they are Christians, what their religion actually demands.

Not hard to understand, given that a survey found that 12% of Americans--that's over 30 million people, for Christ's sake!--believe that Joan of Arc (so spelled) was married to Noah of the Ar ...[text shortened]...
https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-problem-of-evangelical-biblical-illiteracy

I wonder what the median SAT scores are nowadays. I bet it's abysmal.

@Suzianne said
I wonder what the median SAT scores are nowadays. I bet it's abysmal.

If you want to know how great a country is going to be fifteen years down the
road, find out how it treats its primary school teachers now.

If you want to know how great a country is going to be five years down the road, find out how it funds its universities now.

@moonbus said
I have noted, in this forum as well as in the real world, that educated nonChristians often know better than those who think they are Christians, what their religion actually demands.

Not hard to understand, given that a survey found that 12% of Americans--that's over 30 million people, for Christ's sake!--believe that Joan of Arc (so spelled) was married to Noah of the Ar ...[text shortened]...
https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-problem-of-evangelical-biblical-illiteracy

The bottom line on who is a Christian is who belongs to Christ; you know the difference, how?

@KellyJay said
The bottom line on who is a Christian is who belongs to Christ; you know the difference, how?

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”

@moonbus said
“By their fruits ye shall know them.”

Yes, so hate speech directed at multitudes of people, taking things someone said, twisting it, and telling others they believe that which is not true, makes those who do that liars, living in a state of hate and strife, these are not the fruit of the Spirit scripture speaks of.

If you cannot love those you see, your profession of faith in a God you cannot see is meaningless, except to the hate crowd who are always wrapping themselves up in self-righteousness. Virtue signalling may make the other hateful like you, but God, who died for those you hate, has set a time when we will all give an account.