Originally posted by orfeoJer 20:9
Jeremiah 20:9
PS Dear Lord, please let me have got those numbers right. It's after 1am and I can't be bothered getting my Bible out to check.
9Then I said, "I will not make mention of Him, nor speak anymore in His name." But His word was in my heart like a burning fire shut up in my bones; I was weary of holding it back, and I could not.
(NKJ)
Great verse.🙂
Originally posted by checkbaiterSo when the people of 'the church' walk outside the church....then what they were taught no longer applies to those they preach too?
Actually Wulebgr is right. Jesus specifically is speaking to a specific church in it's context.
Rev 3:14
14"And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen...
(NKJ)
Originally posted by windmill????????
So when the people of 'the church' walk outside the church....then what they were taught no longer applies to those they preach too?
You miss the whole point. He was referring to the church of the....
Rev 3:14
14"And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:
(NKJ)
These people...but we can learn from what is written...Jesus would rather you be hot or cold and not lukewarm.
The entire notion of "favorite bible verse" presumes the sort of reading hopscotch that will nearly always distort the text. Revelation 3:20 ranks among the most frequently quoted verses by evangelicals, nearly always for the purpose of seeking the conversion of an unbeliever. The verse's primary message was to believers. It may be a call to repentance, but it is a call to believers to repent--to become hot, rather than lukewarm.
II Chronicles 7:14 is popular among many Americans (and probably folks in other nations) who believe their nation is somehow chosen. It gets quoted less frequently, but nearly always inappropriately.
Folks who read the Bible must learn to read it as a whole text, not a bunch of discrete and segmented parts. Perhaps we should talk about out favorite Bible stories, or our favorite books of the Bible.
Originally posted by WulebgrMy point exactly, well said.
The entire notion of "favorite bible verse" presumes the sort of reading hopscotch that will nearly always distort the text. Revelation 3:20 ranks among the most frequently quoted verses by evangelicals, nearly always for the purpose of seeking the conversion of an unbeliever. The verse's primary message was to believers. It may be a call to repentance, b ...[text shortened]... ts. Perhaps we should talk about out favorite Bible stories, or our favorite books of the Bible.
I think you mean 2 Chronicles 7:14....
And you are right again about reading in context.
Originally posted by checkbaiterMy point is the fact that their are many different 'churchs'with different messages.The message to one church would or would not have a different meaning to another?Sometimes it may....sometimes it may not....well thats what i think.So i was asking you.
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You miss the whole point. He was referring to the church of the....
Rev 3:14
14"And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:
(NKJ)
These people...but we can learn from what is written...Jesus would rather you be hot or cold and not lukewarm.
John, Chapter 21
15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."
16 He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."
17 He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.
11 Amen, amen, I say to you, when you were younger, you used to dress yourself and go where you wanted; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go."
Originally posted by checkbaiterI disagree with you Checkbaiter.Jesus walked the earth for 33 years facing each day situations that some of us would never see in our lifetimes.It must be worse!
Because Lazarus, His friend had died....but His weeping could entail many more reasons ie., the mourning shared among the woman present, the unbelief in the power and love of God, the scorners, etc.
Originally posted by windmillI disagree with you. I've walked the earth for as long, and suffered the same as jesus. I've turned wine into water, I've vcooked fish fingers, I was even nailed to a cross for 3 days. The difference is, I don't whinge on about it.
I disagree with you Checkbaiter.Jesus walked the earth for 33 years facing each day situations that some of us would never see in our lifetimes.It must be worse!