Originally posted by FMFFMF, instead of merely being a regurgitating troll of what other people post, why don't you do this instead. Post a real thought of your own for once. Don't just ask questions from posters who have something to say. Actually post an original thought of your own FOR ONCE!!!!
What exactly is it you expect a God to do? Why? And what is your source for the claim implicitly contained in your lament for that boy?
A disgusting photo is on the internet of an innocent boy who is dead, and I find it horrific to see. If God existed, then He could have had a say in whether this boy lived or died. That was my point!!
Please say something relevant this time. And do NOT merely come back with another troll question.
Originally posted by chaney3I am questioning what you said because you either do not realize what you have said in the past or you're posting random thoughts that do not constitute you communicating properly.
FMF, instead of merely being a regurgitating troll of what other people post, why don't you do this instead. Post a real thought of your own for once. Don't just ask questions from posters who have something to say. Actually post an original thought of your own FOR ONCE!!!!
A disgusting photo is on the internet of an innocent boy who is dead, and I fin ...[text shortened]... ease say something relevant this time. And do NOT merely come back with another troll question.
You recently said you believed in a creator God who doesn't intervene and now you're complaining that God does not intervene ~ whilst citing an example of God not intervening ~ so, how does this constitute 'no proof that there's a God'?
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Originally posted by chaney3Yes, and my point about what you said is contained in these two questions: What exactly is it you think you are entitled to expect a God figure to do? What is your justification for the expectation (or supposed entitlement) which is implicit in what you say about your sorrow for that boy?
A disgusting photo is on the internet of an innocent boy who is dead, and I find it horrific to see. If God existed, then He could have had a say in whether this boy lived or died. That was my point!!
Originally posted by FMFHey FMF, do you not think it is possible that I am currently in the midst of a 'God' crisis? Do you not realize? Your buddy dive seems to dismiss it, as IF....someone MUST be a Christian at ALL phases of life. The interesting component regarding yourself, is that you claim to have ONCE been a Christian.....and now, you are no longer a Christian. I could challenge every single post you make as absurd due to that fact, but I don't.
I am questioning what you said because you either do not realize what you have said in the past or you're posting random thoughts that do not constitute you communicating properly.
You recently said you believed in a creator God who doesn't intervene and now you're complaining that God does not intervene ~ whilst citing an example of God not intervening ~ so, how does this constitute 'no proof that there's a God'?
The issue of God is NOT easy, as some may think. God giving man free will does NOT take God off the hook when it comes to inhumanity. Example: God was completely absent during the Holocaust, and....people actually defend God with the free will issue, claiming that Adolph Hitler was merely using his 'free will' to kill millions of 'supposed God's children'.
The entire issue is absurd. Somewhere in the Bible (not sure where), it claims that God cares about His creations. The proof of human life assures that God seemingly could care less about human life. Except: for the baseball player who hits a home run, and blesses God as he crosses home plate, looks up to the sky, and kisses his $10,000 gold cross. God cares for the home run, but....not for millions of Jews, nor the baby dead in the recent photo.
That's why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by chaney3Well then, if what you claim about yourself is true, why not show some sincerity and actually address the feedback and scrutiny that your public claims and comments draw.
Hey FMF, do you not think it is possible that I am currently in the midst of a 'God' crisis? Do you not realize?
You have stated that you believe there is a God who is a creator but that He does not intervene in human affairs. So how can Him 'not intervening' be a lack of proof that God exists?
Originally posted by chaney3I don't think anything I say is "absurd" and the reason you don't challenge it for being "absurd" is because you can't. You're also too busy lashing out at people who offer point-blank on-target responses specifically to the points you raise and the claims and comments you make.
The interesting component regarding yourself, is that you claim to have ONCE been a Christian.....and now, you are no longer a Christian. I could challenge every single post you make as absurd due to that fact, but I don't.
Originally posted by FMFForget, for a moment what I have said in the past. Because you seem to take notes on everything.
I don't think anything I say is "absurd" and the reason you don't challenge it for being "absurd" is because you can't. You're also too busy lashing out at people who offer point-blank on-target responses specifically to the points you raise and the claims and comments you make.
The OP asks......what proof of God would be sufficient? I merely made a point that God was certainly NOT present to help this little boy.
The fact that you have conveniently decided to NOT believe in God helps you with these issues, because you can dismiss the God factor. So, the question comes up again, and it pertains to the OP.
Why. Why. Why. Why....FMF, did YOU once believe in God? And....Why. Why, do you now NOT believe in God. For some people, a disgusting photo of an innocent boy laying face down on the beach, drowned, can be a turning point.
What was yours?
Originally posted by chaney3I have simply read what you're said and did not need to take notes. Forgetting what you have said in the past does not answer these questions: You recently said you believed in a creator God who doesn't intervene and now you're complaining that God does not intervene ~ whilst citing an example of God not intervening ~ so, how does this constitute 'no proof that there's a God'? You need to answer these about yourself and your definition of God otherwise you're just not talking with enough consistency for what you say to mean much.
Forget, for a moment what I have said in the past. Because you seem to take notes on everything.
Originally posted by chaney3Why is it you believe that a God figure should have helped the boy in the photo you saw on the internet? What is your basis for believing this? And if you're talking about the Christian God figure, which Christians do you think are claiming that their God should have helped the boy in the photo you saw?
The OP asks......what proof of God would be sufficient? I merely made a point that God was certainly NOT present to help this little boy.
-Removed-Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE being doubtful about God?
Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE that my Mom died, and that it is painful for me?
Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE being an alcoholic?
Dive.............What possible reasons would I have to post public thoughts on these matters, and FAKE them??????
None!!! You are out of your mind if you think such things.
Originally posted by FMFGod should have helped that boy. And, God should have intervened with the Nazi Holocaust.
Why is it you believe that a God figure should have helped the boy in the photo you saw on the internet? What is your basis for believing this? And if you're talking about the Christian God figure, which Christians do you think are claiming that their God should have helped the boy in the photo you saw?
Originally posted by chaney3If your mother has died, then you have my sympathy and condolences.
Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE being doubtful about God?
Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE that my Mom died, and that it is painful for me?
Dive, do you really, really think that I would FAKE being an alcoholic?
Dive.............What possible reasons would I have to post public thoughts on these matters, and FAKE them??????
None!!! You are out of your mind if you think such things.
The rest of what you say [and the way you behave] makes you seem very insincere.
I suspect you are here simply to wind up Christians which may be why, for the most part, they ignore you.