Originally posted by sonhouseWell. Was reading about the arkansas trail. I don't think people go there and not feel spiritual about our planet. But what would you actually need to see?
Death plays to cover up the fact no god gives a shyte about humans, no heaven no hell, just ignored if anything. Tell me about any god's anyone personally saw lately.
Originally posted by whodeyI don't believe in the capital G God, so I'm out of turn, hope you forgive me. I don't believe in the Christian Hell, either, of course.
For those who believe in God but do not believe in a hell, what role does death play?
Death recycles your spirit. What have you leaned, what do you bring back to the sea?
Originally posted by apathistSo essentially God brings death because he is a big Lib who wants to 'recycle" things?
I don't believe in the capital G God, so I'm out of turn, hope you forgive me. I don't believe in the Christian Hell, either, of course.
Death recycles your spirit. What have you leaned, what do you bring back to the sea?
No wonder Libs are fanatical about recycling. It's a religious thingy.
-Removed-As much as I would love to get into a theological discussion about Daniel my only question to this thread was to get peoples beliefs who believe in God but not hell, and you are one of those people.
So do you believe that some simply are never resurrected again or do you believe you will be sipping tea with Hitler some day?
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Originally posted by apathistNo, I think you hit your own thumb with the hammer.
People who don;t believe as you do, they get hell. Did I nail it.
If you were paying attention I said that strictly speaking everyone who dies, Christian or not goes to Hell - which is Hades which is the Old Testament Sheol.
Since actually Hell means the whole realm of death - the spirit and soul separated from the physical body - everyone who experiences this goes to Hell (or Hades).
The eternal fire is prepared for the devil and his angels and for all those whose names are not recorded in the book of life. In the vernacular usage this has come to be referred to as Hell.
This book of life is not "the book of all those who agree with sonship". That it represents those who agree with me personally is a twisting on your part. The book of life is also called of the Lamb. The Lamb of God is Jesus Christ Who died that you and I might be saved from eternally being unreconciled to God.
It is not a controversy with me that causes someone to perish in the lake of fire.
It is having a controversy with Jesus Christ which causes that.
"Lord Jesus. I use to have a controversy with You. But because of You shedding Your blood for me on Your cross, I understand and believe now that You are able to completely save me from the result of that controversy.
Lord Jesus, I receive You as my Lord and Savior right now. I receive the cleansing of Your finished work of eternal redemption. Thank You Lord Jesus for rescuing me from that eternal second death by the blood of Your sacrifice on my behalf.
Lord Jesus, let us begin a life together now by Your mercy, grace, and faithfulness. Change me O Lord Jesus. Thank You Lord Jesus. Thank You for Your faithfulness Lord. "
That is a good prayer uttered in honesty to remove the dread of eternal damnation and usher one into being one spirit with the Lord Jesus Christ.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)
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I love this song -
Death Cannot Hold the Resurrection Life.
Tune - https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/639
Lyrics (by Witness Lee)
Hymn 639
SUBJECT: THE RESURRECTION LIFE-CHRIST HIMSELF
METER: 10.10.10.10.
AUTHOR: Witness Lee
COMPOSER: C. T. McCorkell
1Death cannot hold the resurrection life,
The life of God eternal manifest;
’Tis uncreated, indestructible,
’Tis Christ Himself, unconqu’rable, expressed
2Death cannot hold the resurrection life,
Though all its force against it may combine;
Death only gives it opportunity
To show the boundless pow’r of life divine.
3Death cannot hold the resurrection life,
The more interred, the more it multiplies;
All kinds of suff’ring only help it grow
And fruits of life abundant realize.
4Death cannot hold the resurrection life,
Thru every block and barrier it breaks;
Conqu’ring the pow’r of darkness and of hell,
It swallows death and victory partakes.
5Death cannot hold the resurrection life,
All of God’s fulness it will manifest;
God’s righteousness and holiness it yields,
His glorious image by it is expressed.
6Oh, may I know this resurrection life,
In every kind of death its pow’r outpoured,
In my experience ever realize
This life is nought but Christ my living Lord.
http://www.witness-lee-hymns.org/hymns/H0639.html
