What role does death play?

Originally posted by whodey
He's not answering because I'm dodging.

Please keep up! 😠

More than one poster has asked you to clarify your meaning of death and on own position in the OP but you have declined to do so. I've asked you opinion on hell many times before and you always dodge the question with globs remarks such as "we both read the same Bible", as you have here.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Don't you know, you are not allowed to ask a question, others here will tell you what to ask
and if they don't like what you are saying they will also tell you what you mean too. You are
not really necessary to any discussion with you.

Lol lol. Good stuff.

You must be referring to the Dive and FMF show.

Originally posted by whodey
So essentially God brings death because he is a big Lib who wants to 'recycle" things?

No wonder Libs are fanatical about recycling. It's a religious thingy.

Isn't god a mind? So what is his substrate. Your mind arises from a substrate built from neurons. So from what does the mind of god arise?

Originally posted by apathist
Isn't god a mind? So what is his substrate. Your mind arises from a substrate built from neurons. So from what does the mind of god arise?

God comes 'from' a mind, a human mind.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
God comes 'from' a mind, a human mind.

Please sir, explain the origin of the human mind.

Originally posted by apathist
Isn't god a mind? So what is his substrate. Your mind arises from a substrate built from neurons. So from what does the mind of god arise?

In the evolutionary process why did the first neuron fire ?

And how did the subsequent neurons fire until a human mind emerged?
Did natural selection working on random variations take us from the first neuron firing to the human mind capable of even contemplating and asking such a question?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
God comes 'from' a mind, a human mind.

You mean it is an idea, and I agree. A very common idea, through time and through cultures. This could be due to a quirk of psychology.

My belief, however, is not faith belief and it doesn't come from doctrine. It is reasoned and based on knowledge and experience. I can't just dismiss it.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
God comes 'from' a mind, a human mind.

When you talk about god it can be anything you want, since you are making it up as you
go. So you are correct, god comes from your mind. The real one, you come from, which is
quite different.

Originally posted by sonship
In the evolutionary process why did the first neuron fire ?

And how did the subsequent neurons fire until a human mind emerged?
Did natural selection working on random variations take us from the first neuron firing to the human mind capable of even contemplating and asking such a question?

Your first question isn't sensible. Atoms exchange electrons 'because' of physics. This is natural. But neurons didn't happen to exist wholesale.

Your second and third questions are good, but I think you use terms that you haven't tried to understand. Evolution by natural selection is a powerful and successful theory, and dismissing it for ideology is stupid.

Evolution on purpose is underway, though we should get wiser on controlling the purpose. You heard it here first!

Your second question: consciousness happens somewhere between 2 and 100 billion neurons. Human brains happen at the upper end. In other words for you, we don't know.

Your third question: Yes. I feel awed too.

Originally posted by KellyJay
When you talk about god it can be anything you want, since you are making it up as you
go. So you are correct, god comes from your mind. The real one, you come from, which is
quite different.

Ah kelly. You rationalize, so apparent. Your eyes are not yet open.

Originally posted by apathist Yes. I feel awed too.

A voice-recognition ai might interpret that as:
"I feel odd too."

I don't feel like arguing with it.

Originally posted by apathist
...consciousness happens somewhere between 2 and 100 billion neurons.

We know it doesn't happen at 1?

Or before?

When will you learn, buddy, to stfu.

Originally posted by apathist
Ah kelly. You rationalize, so apparent. Your eyes are not yet open.

If you do not believe in God, and you are now talking about god, the only god you are
talking about has to be the figment in your imagination, since there is no god in your eyes,
It could be nothing else.

Originally posted by KellyJay
If you do not believe in God, and you are now talking about god, the only god you are
talking about has to be the figment in your imagination, since there is no god in your eyes,
It could be nothing else.

Come sir, we are merely discussing the figment of your imagination.