Originally posted by NosracWhat's the point of praying if we're not going to be saved anyway?
Are you goofy?
I do not "pray over a soul"
I pray FOR souls, many souls.
Souls such as yours.
Souls like mine used to be, my dad called me a 'lost soul'.
I drifted far from the Lord, and when my dad said that
I re-examined my priorities, and now know where I'm going.
I can pray for anyone. It doesn't matter what their believe system is. ...[text shortened]... our free will.
I pray that, someday, you will believe in the Word of God.
Nosrac
What's the point of praying if you're not going to be saved?
Pray this prayer;
Lord, I confess my sins and know that you are the
only God. Lord come into my heart right now I need you.
If you pray this simple prayer then you are saved (see John 3:16).
Jesus died to save not my sins, not your sins, but ALL of our sins.
I know, that part is very overwhelming. But Jesus did this for you.
I put it in this perspective: Jesus died for amanion.
Jesus died for aardvark. Jesus died for Conrau K.
Jesus died for everyone so we all could be saved by accepting
Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior.
Never give up hope. Jesus is always there.
God is omnipresent, He can be with you, me amanion,
Conrau K and everyone else at RHP all at the same time.
Originally posted by NosracI'm sure your God can be all of these things - that's the point isn't it?
What's the point of praying if you're not going to be saved?
Pray this prayer;
Lord, I confess my sins and know that you are the
only God. Lord come into my heart right now I need you.
If you pray this simple prayer then you are saved (see John 3:16).
Jesus died to save not my sins, not your sins, but ALL of our sins.
I know, that part is v ...[text shortened]... t, He can be with you, me amanion,
Conrau K and everyone else at RHP all at the same time.
But for me, there is no god.
Originally posted by frogstompWell, God through Jesus Christ saved me, and I did have issues that
Nah, probably he's just another kid that replaced a drug addiction with a god addiction. I think drugs and alcohol is what they think they're being "saved" from.
included drugs and alcohol too, but that was 25 years ago. I'd say
that drugs and alcohol were real issues, but they were just external
patches for internal issues. Being saved isn't just a matter of being
free from things like drugs and alcohol, as much as it is getting right
with the source all life and the Master Creator of the universe. If you
don't think you need 'saved' from anything, you don't think you need
to be forgiven for anything, you think there is nothing more to this
life than what you see and understand, you may mock and scoff
at those that acknowledge God and our need for Him. In the end
if you are right it doesn't matter which way you or I lived, reality will
shake out who the real fools are when all is said and done.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIn the end if you are right it doesn't matter which way you or I lived
Well, God through Jesus Christ saved me, and I did have issues that
included drugs and alcohol too, but that was 25 years ago. I'd say
that drugs and alcohol were real issues, but they were just external
patches for internal issues. Being saved isn't just a matter of being
free from things like drugs and alcohol, as much as it is getting right
with th ...[text shortened]... I lived, reality will
shake out who the real fools are when all is said and done.
Kelly
Religion because you're hoping for Heaven eh...
Originally posted by KellyJayThe power of faith to heal a person's woes does not make an Iron age creation myth a good guide to the natural world
Well, God through Jesus Christ saved me, and I did have issues that
included drugs and alcohol too, but that was 25 years ago. I'd say
that drugs and alcohol were real issues, but they were just external
patches for internal issues. Being saved isn't just a matter of being
free from things like drugs and alcohol, as much as it is getting right
with th ...[text shortened]... I lived, reality will
shake out who the real fools are when all is said and done.
Kelly
amannion,
if there is no God, to you, then
who created the Heavens and the Earth?
who created the air that you breathe?
who created light?
who created the planets?
who created you?
if you think about, I mean really think about it, you come to one of two conclusions:
1) someone/thing created everything
or
2) there is a God, and He did create all things.
I'll take the latter.
I'll debate this matter until my computer screens
are blue in the LCD 🙂
Nosrac
I've just told this to a good friend of mine:
Salvation is free!
Jesus died for all our sins.
Will you accept the free gift of salvation?
All you have to do is believe that God is your own personal savior,
and that Jesus died for your sins.
C'mon, it's free! You guys can't be afraid.
Nosrac
Originally posted by NosracI'm not afraid, I just don't need saving.
I've just told this to a good friend of mine:
Salvation is free!
Jesus died for all our sins.
Will you accept the free gift of salvation?
All you have to do is believe that God is your own personal savior,
and that Jesus died for your sins.
C'mon, it's free! You guys can't be afraid.
Nosrac
Originally posted by NosracNo, YOU come to one of two conclusions - which by the way are both exactly the same thing.
amannion,
if there is no God, to you, then
who created the Heavens and the Earth?
who created the air that you breathe?
who created light?
who created the planets?
who created you?
if you think about, I mean really think about it, you come to one of two conclusions:
1) someone/thing created everything
or
2) there is a God, and He did create all thi ...[text shortened]... ter.
I'll debate this matter until my computer screens
are blue in the LCD 🙂
Nosrac
You've neglected the scientific alternative which requires no creator - everything occurs naturally.
I'll give you some examples:
Who created light?
No one. The sun generates light through a NATURAL process of fusing hydrogen into helium.
Who created the planets?
No one. The accretion of gas, dust and ice of a slowly rotating molecular cloud formed the planets probably 5 billion years ago.
Who created me?
C'mon. Surely you know about sex. Much as I hate to imagine them doing it, my mum and dad got together one night ...
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Saved from what? if it is from hell then basically god is saying believe in me to save yourself from going to hell. thats pretty self serving. if not that then I ask again what the hell is it you believe anyone who doesn't belive what you do needs saving from?
Ps: please don't groan too hard at the unintended pun. having spotted it I don't have the heart to remove it.
Originally posted by NosracNone of it was 'created'. Your problem solved.
amannion,
if there is no God, to you, then
who created the Heavens and the Earth?
who created the air that you breathe?
who created light?
who created the planets?
who created you?
if you think about, I mean really think about it, you come to one of two conclusions:
1) someone/thing created everything
or
2) there is a God, and He did create all thi ...[text shortened]... ter.
I'll debate this matter until my computer screens
are blue in the LCD 🙂
Nosrac
Originally posted by NosracIt is somewhat suprising to me that someone who sounds like a used car salesman for christ has a good friend.
I've just told this to a good friend of mine:
Salvation is free!
Jesus died for all our sins.
Will you accept the free gift of salvation?
All you have to do is believe that God is your own personal savior,
and that Jesus died for your sins.
C'mon, it's free! You guys can't be afraid.
Nosrac
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