Originally posted by 7ate9Slowing down or speeding up requires that you know both the rate of
i don't want to capitalise or do those other things you expect of me. who do you think you are?????
i wasn't even talking to you. i was talking to a person that i thought may believe continental drift was caused through the flood. if so, then it is logical that the movement of the continents would slow down. i don't see what's wrong with that? the same wou ...[text shortened]... the person i was talking to. maybe if you gave it some time, then it would be to you also.
movement now which we could find, but also what it was a few
thousand years ago if that was what you wanted to make the
comparison to. That part of this equation will only be found between
the ears of someone as they form a theory or make a guess, in
either case you don't know.
Kelly
Originally posted by 7ate9You yanks think it's all about you.
consider this, the time frame that man has existed in regards to what evolution dictates. draw a line for this and then mark out the area in which science has made all the breakthrough advances in technology. hell, we we're on horses 100 years ago, surviving with fire, and had to pull our teeth out without pain relief. did science really advance as much as it ...[text shortened]... s in 100 years without making any mistakes in regards to what it gave little consideration for?
You might have been on horses 100 years ago, but we had the telephone, the electric lightbulb, and 200 hundred years earlier a French chemist by the name of Lavoisier named oxygen. Newton came up with calculus, and gravity, Copernicus dispensed with heliocentreic theory 500 years ago. Scienc ewas far more advanced 100 years ago than you seem to believe.
Originally posted by 7ate9I agree with Jon here actually. I thought you came here to debate with everyone? IF so, you should have the common courtesy to your reader to make your point of view easy to understand. Too often in this forum people simply talk past each other because the other posters don't explain themselves coherently. I'll even hold my hands up to that too!
i don't want to capitalise or do those other things you expect of me. who do you think you are?????
i wasn't even talking to you. i was talking to a person that i thought may believe continental drift was caused through the flood. if so, then it is logical that the movement of the continents would slow down. i don't see what's wrong with that? the same wou ...[text shortened]... the person i was talking to. maybe if you gave it some time, then it would be to you also.
Originally posted by KellyJayI don't know why you are so against theories. Are you aware that gravity is scientific theory? Would you challenge my "guess" that gravity existed at the time of the formation of the Earth?
Slowing down or speeding up requires that you know both the rate of
movement now which we could find, but also what it was a few
thousand years ago if that was what you wanted to make the
comparison to. That part of this equation will only be found between
the ears of someone as they form a theory or make a guess, in
either case you don't know.
Kelly
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Originally posted by Conrau KI don't know what you complaining about, if you are going to say
I don't know why you are so against theories. Are you aware that gravity is scientific theory? Would you challenge my "guess" that gravity existed at the time of the formation of the Earth?
that there was some change due to a continental drift...wouldn't it
be necessary to know where the continents were so we can say they
have drifted this much during the time in question? What does that
have to do with being against any theory? I’m simply asking what are
the variables? What does gravity have to do with continental drift,
since I was talking about continental drift and your bringing up gravity?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayYou were saying that we can't really know because its just guesswork and theory. What I am trying to point out is that gravity, continental shift, evolution etc are all observed phenomenon and there is no reason to think that they didn't happen in the past. By collecting data we can accurately infer where the continents were, what evolutionary precursors looked like, that objects fell from the sky etc. Its all valid science. I don't know why you are so against it.
I don't know what you complaining about, if you are going to say
that there was some change due to a continental drift...wouldn't it
be necessary to know where the continents were so we can say they
have drifted this much during the time in question? What does that
have to do with being against any theory? I’m simply asking what are
the variables? What ...[text shortened]... ental drift,
since I was talking about continental drift and your bringing up gravity?
Kelly
Originally posted by Conrau KYou should read the conversation; you are off base in this discussion.
You were saying that we can't really know because its just guesswork and theory. What I am trying to point out is that gravity, continental shift, evolution etc are all observed phenomenon and there is no reason to think that they didn't happen in the past. By collecting data we can accurately infer where the continents were, what evolutionary precursors lo ...[text shortened]... objects fell from the sky etc. Its all valid science. I don't know why you are so against it.
My point in this discussion was that to know how much change
occurred in the last 7K as far as the continental drift is concern you
need to know where the continents were 7K ago. Beyond that I had
no point, so if you want take that and try to turn my point of view into
a slam against all theories you go ahead! Just know that it is your
assumptions not my words that got you there.
Kelly
Originally posted by Conrau KEvolution depending on how you define it isn't observed to the degree
You were saying that we can't really know because its just guesswork and theory. What I am trying to point out is that gravity, continental shift, evolution etc are all observed phenomenon and there is no reason to think that they didn't happen in the past. By collecting data we can accurately infer where the continents were, what evolutionary precursors lo ...[text shortened]... objects fell from the sky etc. Its all valid science. I don't know why you are so against it.
it suggested it occurs.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaySimple really, just look at where the fault lines are today, look at the rate of drift, then back extrapolate. Perhaps you are suggesting that the rate of continental drift has slowed at just the right amount to delude us into thinking that the last supercontinent was millions of years ago, when it was, in fact, in 1920.
You should read the conversation; you are off base in this discussion.
My point in this discussion was that to know how much change
occurred in the last 7K as far as the continental drift is concern you
need to know where the continents were 7K ago. Beyond that I had
no point, so if you want take that and try to turn my point of view into
a slam agains ...[text shortened]... es you go ahead! Just know that it is your
assumptions not my words that got you there.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIT DOES NOT NEED TO BE OBSERVED.
Evolution depending on how you define it isn't observed to the degree
it suggested it occurs.
KellyIt
Neither does continental drift or gravity. We can known these phenomena will happen because of an understanding of genetics, tectonic plates and Einstein's laws of general relativity.
Umbrage & Scott,
This is the same reason I keep recommending the Bible.
No one is a lost cause..until they give up on Christ.
I pray none of you ever do.
I'll pick up the Watch... book for Scott's sake.
Now, Umbrage, your suggestion of baby steps...hmmmm..
Okay, show me a man that has evolved into something other than a man.
Now, for you or these other guys that should be easy.
We all habitate the Earth. God created all of us. Believe it or not.
The Bible may be a heavy read, but it explains a heck of a lot about:
CREATION
Prophecy
Finance
Parenting
I could go on and on. Just read it and find the TRUTH for yourself
in God's WORD.
Nosrac