What's wrong with evolution?

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XanthosNZ

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10 Aug 06 08:53

Originally posted by dj2becker
The problem that the atheist has is not the lack of evidence for God but rather the suppression of that evidence.

Oh really? What evidence would that be?

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10 Aug 06 08:57

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Oh really? What evidence would that be?

Do you know of a cure for HIV/ AIDS?

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10 Aug 06 09:00

Originally posted by dj2becker
Do you know of a cure for HIV/ AIDS?

I'll bite.

No I don't.

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10 Aug 06 09:21

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I'll bite.

No I don't.

Do you think it is possible for somebody to be tested positive for HIV/AIDS and have all the symptoms associated with HIV/AIDS and then to have all the sores close up and test HIV negative again?

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10 Aug 06 09:26

Originally posted by dj2becker
Do you think it is possible for somebody to be tested positive for HIV/AIDS and have all the symptoms associated with HIV/AIDS and then to have all the sores close up and test HIV negative again?

Not this again. That is not evidence of anything.

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10 Aug 06 09:29

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Not this again. That is not evidence of anything.

I see you have made up your mind before I have told you a quarter of the story.

That is what I call suppression of evidence.

I guess I had better not waste my time with you. You will simply reject the scientific evidence of answered prayer without giving it a second thought.

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10 Aug 06 09:37

Originally posted by dj2becker
I see you have made up your mind before I have told you a quarter of the story.

That is what I call suppression of evidence.

I guess I had better not waste my time with you. You will simply reject the scientific evidence of answered prayer without giving it a second thought.

Present your 'scientific' evidence then and we'll show why it's crap.

Or you could stop derailing this thread away from Evolution because you haven't got a leg to stand on on that front.

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10 Aug 06 09:37

Originally posted by dj2becker
You will simply reject the scientific evidence of answered prayer without giving it a second thought.

Nice to see you haven't changed a bit, deej.

So, about this "scientific evidence" of "answered prayer". This one is repeatable, right? We can get 100 HIV-infected subjects and have them all pray to god for a cure. 100% effective? It better be, or god ain't perfect.

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10 Aug 06 09:48

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Present your 'scientific' evidence then and we'll show why it's crap.

Or you could stop derailing this thread away from Evolution because you haven't got a leg to stand on on that front.

Present your 'scientific' evidence then and we'll show why it's crap.

Your mind is already made up.

Or you could stop derailing this thread away from Evolution because you haven't got a leg to stand on on that front.

It all depends on how you interpret the evidence and what you accept as evidence.

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10 Aug 06 09:50

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Originally posted by David C
Nice to see you haven't changed a bit, deej.

So, about this "scientific evidence" of "answered prayer". This one is repeatable, right? We can get 100 HIV-infected subjects and have them all pray to god for a cure. 100% effective? It better be, or god ain't perfect.

Interesting how you change your tune on 'evidence'...

Is all the evidence you cling to for Evolution 100% repeatable?

Besides, I could argue that God does not answer all prayers because not all people are in right standing with God. But God does answer prayers if the conditions that He gives are met.

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10 Aug 06 10:32

Originally posted by dj2becker
Is all the evidence you cling to for Evolution 100% repeatable?

At the risk of offending Grande Dame Xanthos by derailing the thread topic further, we were not talking about evolution. We were talking about your "scientific evidence" of miracle HIV cures through prayer to the Judeo-Christian God.

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10 Aug 06 10:33

I'm still not seeing a shred of empirical scientific evidence.

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10 Aug 06 11:18

http://whydoesgodhateamputees.com/video.htm
dj should watch this on repeat

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10 Aug 06 11:39

Originally posted by mrstabby
http://whydoesgodhateamputees.com/video.htm
dj should watch this on repeat

God works in mysterious ways you know.

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10 Aug 06 12:37

Originally posted by dj2becker
The problem that the atheist has is not the lack of evidence for God but rather the suppression of that evidence.

I am not for a moment saying that is true but if it were why is it a problem for an atheist? Surely if it were true it would be a problem for theists not atheists. Also how do you suppose this evidence gets suppressed? What evidence is there that you think is being suppressed? Is it being kept in the same place as Elvis and the Roswell alien?