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Originally posted by David CBut that does not change the definition of "scientific evidence" does it?
At the risk of offending Grande Dame Xanthos by derailing the thread topic further, we were not talking about evolution. We were talking about your "scientific evidence" of miracle HIV cures through prayer to the Judeo-Christian God.
All I need is a bit of consistency from your side.
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Originally posted by XanthosNZMaybe it would help if you opened your eyes?
I'm still not seeing a shred of empirical scientific evidence.
But unfortunately those words are wasted on a man that is spiritually blind.
Maybe if you confess your sin and are reconciled with God your spiritual eyes will be opened.
Until then I will be talking with a brick wall.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerProve the existence of heaven, and that you get a new body when you get there. Till then I think someone who has suffered the loss of a limb should receive a tad more sympathy. You trying spouting that crap in the middle of a trauma ward and see how many bits you land up in.
Why do you think God hates them?
What are a few miserable days on earth compared to an eternity in Heaven with a new body?
Originally posted by dj2beckerAnd you'll be the person who won't actually back up the claims he makes. You said there is scientific evidence so present it. I'm a scientific type of guy.
Maybe it would help if you opened your eyes?
But unfortunately those words are wasted on a man that is spiritually blind.
Maybe if you confess your sin and are reconciled with God your spiritual eyes will be opened.
Until then I will be talking with a brick wall.
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Originally posted by googlefudgeSince you have taken the existence of God as a priori in accusing Him, the existence of Heaven is a logical deduction that springs from the existence of God.
Prove the existence of heaven, and that you get a new body when you get there. Till then I think someone who has suffered the loss of a limb should receive a tad more sympathy. You trying spouting that crap in the middle of a trauma ward and see how many bits you land up in.
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Originally posted by XanthosNZYou did not even give me time to make any claims when you already spouted out that it was cr@p.
And you'll be the person who won't actually back up the claims he makes. You said there is scientific evidence so present it. I'm a scientific type of guy.
I have learnt my lesson previously with guys like yourself. You are a waste of time, until you change your attitude.
Till then...
Cheers.
PS: A scientific kind of guy would not say somethig is cr@p before he's even seen it.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerno I was accusing you. I never assume the existence of god. I would however disagree with your assertion that if there is a god there must be a heaven.
Since you have taken the existence of God as a priori in accusing Him, the existence of Heaven is a logical deduction that springs from the existence of God.
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Originally posted by googlefudgeThe statement "why God hates amputees" assumes God's existence.
no I was accusing you. I never assume the existence of god. I would however disagree with your assertion that if there is a god there must be a heaven.
What were you accusing me of? Believing in the God of the Bible?
As I take the existence of the God of the Bible as a priori, I assume Heaven exists.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerThis is a text forum; unlike verbal sparring you have time to think about your posts and to provide comprehensive questions and answers. If you choose not to do so then that is entirely your problem, and people will deduce from that what they will.
You did not even give me time to make any claims when you already spouted out that it was cr@p.
I have learnt my lesson previously with guys like yourself. You are a waste of time, until you change your attitude.
Till then...
Cheers.
PS: A scientific kind of guy would not say somethig is cr@p before he's even seen it.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerah so you in fact have no evidence for heaven
The statement "why God hates amputees" assumes God's existence.
What were you accusing me of? Believing in the God of the Bible?
As I take the God of the Bible as a priori, I assume Heaven exists.
Edit: Accusing was possibly the wrong phrase, I was chalenging you, I was ignooring the question in the post about god hating people, and was questioning your assertion that, effectively, it is ok for people to suffer in this world as they would be ok in the next.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerJesus' guide to get to heaven according to the gospel...
Why do you think God hates them?
What are a few miserable days on earth compared to an eternity in Heaven with a new body?
Love God and your neighbour
Sell everything
Honour your parents and
Hate your family and yourself...
Eat the flesh and drink the blood of christ
Become like little children
Be born again (spiritually)
Follow the 613 old testament laws
Believe in Jesus
You can check these up in the bible
Luke 10:25-28
Luke 18:18-22
Luke 14:26-33
John 6:53-54
Matthew 18:2-3
John 3:3-8
Matthew 5:17-20
and the old favourite John 3:16
This is what you have to do to get to heaven. Which of these have you done? Has anyone done all of these? Raise your hands... No wonder Jesus said getting to heaven is as likely as passing a camel through the eye of a needle.
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Originally posted by mrstabbyhate your family???
Jesus' guid to get to heaven according to the gospel...
Love God and your neighbour
Sell everything
Honour your parents [b]and
Hate your family and yourself...
Eat the flesh and drink the blood of christ
Become like little children
Be born again (spiritually)
Follow the 613 old testament laws
Believe in Jesus
You can check these up in the bi ...[text shortened]... onder Jesus said getting to heaven is as likely as passing a camel through the eye of a needle.[/b]
Originally posted by googlefudgeLuke 14:26-27
hate your family???
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple