Who goes to heaven?

I would say more then 144,000 will. I know there is a boo out called the 139,999. So you still have a chance.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Is that your opinion because I disagree with your 'once saved always saved' hypocrisy?

First of all, I do not know what you are talking about and I'm not sure you would be best served by assuming things about me.

Matthew 7:5 has special relevance to you because of your "holier than thou" attitude here that no one could possibly understand or follow Christ's commandments more than you do. But I have pointed out time and again how you choose to ignore Christ's commandment to "love your Christian brothers". This is the very definition of a hypocrite.

But do go on telling us how we should run our Christian lives. Just don't expect us to take your advice. I question your qualifications to advise anyone. Don't get me wrong. You can continue to preach whatever flavor of Christianity you want to. But we just aren't likely to listen to those who cannot even follow their own advice.

Originally posted by galveston75
So that means you have no answer and don't know the differance..Right?

No it means I don't care 🙂 If you believe in God don't fear or worry. Too many are so worried about the end of the world that they are not living in the here and now



Manny

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
which is...?

It's at the core of pretty much all religions. I'm sure you can figure it out.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
It's at the core of pretty much all religions. I'm sure you can figure it out.

I am sure i can, but there is a difference between philosophy and religion, that being
that philosophy is merely content to understand the constituent parts of a problem, how
they relate to the whole, whereas religion, advocates some form of action. Love for
example can exist in principle, the Greeks termed it 'agape', but a quality like mercy,
must have a recipient, an outlet, it cannot exist apart, it must be demonstrated.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am sure i can, but there is a difference between philosophy and religion, that being
that philosophy is merely content to understand the constituent parts of a problem, how
they relate to the whole, whereas religion, advocates some form of action. Love for
example can exist in principle, the Greeks termed it 'agape', but a quality like mercy,
must have a recipient, an outlet, it cannot exist apart, it must be demonstrated.

I don't see how this relates to the point we're discussing, perhaps you could elucidate?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
I don't see how this relates to the point we're discussing, perhaps you could elucidate?

well its fine and well to state that ll religions teach that we are brothers, but unless its
acted upon then it remains a principle, nothing more.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well its fine and well to state that ll religions teach that we are brothers, but unless its
acted upon then it remains a principle, nothing more.

Oh right. The core message I was alluding to could most succinctly be expressed as "be good".

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Oh right. The core message I was alluding to could most succinctly be expressed as "be good".

ok, 'be good', is quite ambiguous, even inanimate objects can be good me thinks, a
good knife can cut well, a good microphone can pick up sound waves. animals can also
be good, a good cow gives milk, a good dog guards the house, a good cat catches mice.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sigh more mere opinion masquerading as some kind of truth. So if we cannot put the
constituent parts together so as to to form an understanding of its intent, we simply say
that its bollocks, in its entirety. This type of opinion has practically no relevance to
anyone. Was Bosch not inspired by the Biblical account to produce some outstandin ...[text shortened]... s bollocks', I move you to
shame piano man and all who adopt this attitude to sacred things.

I agree with a lot of what you say. Some of the greatest works of art have been inspired by Christianity. My area of expertise is music and Bach's glorious passions, Cantatas and the B minor Mass, the majestic Requiems of Brahms, Fauré, Verdi, Duruflé and Poulenc, amongst others, were all inspired by Christianity. None of this wonderful music would exist without of the Bible. This, of course, was in the days when it was a social requirement to be a Christian and to attend church every Sunday. Obviously to describe it all as bollocks is mischievous, but I stand by my views that all the great religions are a load of bollocks. Divisive and a form of one-upmanship.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, 'be good', is quite ambiguous, even inanimate objects can be good me thinks, a
good knife can cut well, a good microphone can pick up sound waves. animals can also
be good, a good cow gives milk, a good dog guards the house, a good cat catches mice.

avalanchethecat is obviously using the word "good" to mean moral, as in promoting or enhancing well-being etc. While the word "good", as in good knife and good microphone and good cow, is a different meaning of the word "good", 'Having desirable or positive qualities especially those suitable for a thing specified'.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, 'be good', is quite ambiguous, even inanimate objects can be good me thinks, a
good knife can cut well, a good microphone can pick up sound waves. animals can also
be good, a good cow gives milk, a good dog guards the house, a good cat catches mice.

I can't tell if you're hair-splitting or over-thinking, but it's really not as difficult a matter as you suggest. The context of our discussion is quite clear, and the quality of inanimate objects is obviously irrelevant.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
I can't tell if you're hair-splitting or over-thinking, but it's really not as difficult a matter as you suggest. The context of our discussion is quite clear, and the quality of inanimate objects is obviously irrelevant.

His wheels have just been falling off completely on the "born again christian" thread, so he may have been trying to tease you with his pun on the word "good" by way of light relief.

Originally posted by FMF
His wheels have just been falling off completely on the "born again christian" thread, so he may have been trying to tease you with his pun on the word "good" by way of light relief.

Yeah, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt though.

Originally posted by FMF
His wheels have just been falling off completely on the "born again christian" thread, so he may have been trying to tease you with his pun on the word "good" by way of light relief.

still making things up from your factory of spin, oh dear.