Originally posted by FabianFnas He rested because he needed the rest. I just read the bible. It is vague on the reason though, like many other things. We have to invent the reasons for ourselves.
Your explanation contradicts an omnipotent God. See my qualifier above.
Originally posted by Palynka There is no such thing as "hard work" for an omnipotent God.
but god is not omnipotent. anyone who claims that must answer the dilemma about an immovable object and unstoppable force. can god create both those objects? he cannot therefore he is not omnipotent
Originally posted by zozozozo Lets first suppose that ''he'' exists.😉
I think there can be alot more issues, since its just a fairy tale some1 thought of a long while ago.
i might have another one:
- What about fisherboats? Why didnt ppl in those survive? I can expect those boats to float and resist the flood better then a HUGE boat with a sh**load of animals and other stuff on it.
god didn't design those fisherboats, they were not flood approved devices, the arc was. and yeah, good luck surviving a 40 day storm in a fisher boat with no food.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi but god is not omnipotent. anyone who claims that must answer the dilemma about an immovable object and unstoppable force. can god create both those objects? he cannot therefore he is not omnipotent
Your definition of omnipotence is contradictory.
Omnipotence can only be defined correctly as the ability to do the logically possible.
Originally posted by Palynka Your definition of omnipotence is contradictory.
Omnipotence can only be defined correctly as the ability to do the logically possible.
so god has restrictions. omnipotence doesn't have restrictions.
would you say that materializing matter out of nothingness is logical? but still god can do it since we have reached the point of the flood and accepted it happened.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi so god has restrictions. omnipotence doesn't have restrictions.
would you say that materializing matter out of nothingness is logical? but still god can do it since we have reached the point of the flood and accepted it happened.
You again use and incorrect definition of omnipotence.
I don't what this notion is that you call "omnipotence" because you keep defining it in a contradictory way.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi why? you have nothing. then you have something. where did it come from?
why is it different than creating a force that cannot be stopped?
Please read this regarding what I mean by logically possible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_possibility
It would be logically possible to create a force that cannot be stopped or logically possible to create an unmovable barrier, but it would not be logically possible to create both. 😕
Originally posted by Zahlanzi This is a hypothetical scenario. Let us suppose he did cause the flood, and the flood happened exactly as portrayed in the bible. I would like to discuss several issues
1. Why did god need to wipe all mankind except the Noah clan?
2. Was there nobody else worth saving?
3. God created and he saw that it was good. Why did he had to destroy most of what h ...[text shortened]... he perspective that it already happened. The purpose is to think about what did god had in mind.
You should quote the verses you actually have a question about.
Kelly
Originally posted by Zahlanzi god didn't design those fisherboats, they were not flood approved devices, the arc was. and yeah, good luck surviving a 40 day storm in a fisher boat with no food.
40 days? i cannot imagine the size of that arc. with every animal species male + female. and ALOT of food for all of them...all on a boat this dude built (i thought that noach guy built it not god?).
The food is going to give trouble too, for example, anteaters. They eat ants only dont they? But he only took 2 ants (male + female) on his 'little' boat trip, so the anteaters would die?🙁
Originally posted by zozozozo 40 days? i cannot imagine the size of that arc. with every animal species male + female. and ALOT of food for all of them...all on a boat this dude built (i thought that noach guy built it not god?).
The food is going to give trouble too, for example, anteaters. They eat ants only dont they? But he only took 2 ants (male + female) on his 'little' boat trip, so the anteaters would die?🙁
To begin with if you were going to fill that ark would you have to take
the full grown adults or young creatures which are smaller, the food
for all the creatures would have been fruits, veggies, and grains since
it was not until after the flood did God okay eating meat, that includes
animals too.
Kelly
31 Mar '09 15:12
Why did god cause the flood?
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