Originally posted by zozozozogod didn't design those fisherboats, they were not flood approved devices, the arc was. and yeah, good luck surviving a 40 day storm in a fisher boat with no food.
Lets first suppose that ''he'' exists.😉
I think there can be alot more issues, since its just a fairy tale some1 thought of a long while ago.
i might have another one:
- What about fisherboats? Why didnt ppl in those survive? I can expect those boats to float and resist the flood better then a HUGE boat with a sh**load of animals and other stuff on it.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYour definition of omnipotence is contradictory.
but god is not omnipotent. anyone who claims that must answer the dilemma about an immovable object and unstoppable force. can god create both those objects? he cannot therefore he is not omnipotent
Omnipotence can only be defined correctly as the ability to do the logically possible.
Originally posted by Palynkaso god has restrictions. omnipotence doesn't have restrictions.
Your definition of omnipotence is contradictory.
Omnipotence can only be defined correctly as the ability to do the logically possible.
would you say that materializing matter out of nothingness is logical? but still god can do it since we have reached the point of the flood and accepted it happened.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou again use and incorrect definition of omnipotence.
so god has restrictions. omnipotence doesn't have restrictions.
would you say that materializing matter out of nothingness is logical? but still god can do it since we have reached the point of the flood and accepted it happened.
I don't what this notion is that you call "omnipotence" because you keep defining it in a contradictory way.
Originally posted by ZahlanziPlease read this regarding what I mean by logically possible:
why? you have nothing. then you have something. where did it come from?
why is it different than creating a force that cannot be stopped?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_possibility
It would be logically possible to create a force that cannot be stopped or logically possible to create an unmovable barrier, but it would not be logically possible to create both. 😕
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou should quote the verses you actually have a question about.
This is a hypothetical scenario. Let us suppose he did cause the flood, and the flood happened exactly as portrayed in the bible. I would like to discuss several issues
1. Why did god need to wipe all mankind except the Noah clan?
2. Was there nobody else worth saving?
3. God created and he saw that it was good. Why did he had to destroy most of what h ...[text shortened]... he perspective that it already happened. The purpose is to think about what did god had in mind.
Kelly
Originally posted by Zahlanzi40 days? i cannot imagine the size of that arc. with every animal species male + female. and ALOT of food for all of them...all on a boat this dude built (i thought that noach guy built it not god?).
god didn't design those fisherboats, they were not flood approved devices, the arc was. and yeah, good luck surviving a 40 day storm in a fisher boat with no food.
The food is going to give trouble too, for example, anteaters. They eat ants only dont they? But he only took 2 ants (male + female) on his 'little' boat trip, so the anteaters would die?🙁
Originally posted by zozozozoTo begin with if you were going to fill that ark would you have to take
40 days? i cannot imagine the size of that arc. with every animal species male + female. and ALOT of food for all of them...all on a boat this dude built (i thought that noach guy built it not god?).
The food is going to give trouble too, for example, anteaters. They eat ants only dont they? But he only took 2 ants (male + female) on his 'little' boat trip, so the anteaters would die?🙁
the full grown adults or young creatures which are smaller, the food
for all the creatures would have been fruits, veggies, and grains since
it was not until after the flood did God okay eating meat, that includes
animals too.
Kelly