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Originally posted by @keggeAbraham sacrificed his son?
The bible, remember Abraham? And jesus, his own son FFS.
Originally posted by @keggeAbraham sacrificed his son?
The bible, remember Abraham? And jesus, his own son FFS.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneWhy do you believe only some of Jesus’ words but not all of them? Why, for instance, do you not believe Him when He said He came down from heaven and identified Himself as God? Why don’t you believe Him when He talked about the miracles He performed and that He raised people from the dead?
What makes you think that I'm unaware of the typically wildly speculative rhetoric that Christians often attach to the incident?
Where did Jesus say that He was there to "stop the merchants from making profit" or that money changers were "making an obscene profit"?
If "den of robbers" only applies to merchants and money changers, then why drive off the buyers as well?
You're not understanding what Jesus was saying in Matthew 21:13.
Originally posted by @eladarYou already know the answer.
Abraham sacrificed his son?
Originally posted by @keggeEvidently someone believes he did.
You already know the answer.
Originally posted by @romans1009Why, for instance, do you not believe Him when He said He came down from heaven and identified Himself as God?
Why do you believe only some of Jesus’ words but not all of them? Why, for instance, do you not believe Him when He said He came down from heaven and identified Himself as God? Why don’t you believe Him when He talked about the miracles He performed and that He raised people from the dead?
If you think the Gospel writers got His words wrong in those i ...[text shortened]... us’ own words, you have to believe He was either the Son of God or insane. I believe the former.
By and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true".
I don't share that view of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around them. At best, they can merely echo His words. At worst, they deviate from His words and at times substantially so.
I certainly don't share many of the beliefs espoused by many Christians - many of which are antithetical to what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth
By and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be reasonably sound and reasonably coherent within themselves. What's more, I find much of what was attributed to Him to be remarkably deep and quite profound. As such, by and large, I find the words attributed to Jesus while He walked the Earth to be "true"
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI don’t misrepresent your position on purpose. The problem is, you rarely answer questions and state your positions.
[b] Why, for instance, do you not believe Him when He said He came down from heaven and identified Himself as God?
As has been pointed out to you, it is your nonsensical interpretations of what Jesus actually said that I don't believe. That you continue to misrepresent my position on this amounts to a lie. You and others don't seem to care what J ...[text shortened]... , you'll continue to ignore what I write on this topic and continue to misrepresent my position.[/b]
Originally posted by @romans1009I don’t misrepresent your position on purpose
I don’t misrepresent your position on purpose. The problem is, you rarely answer questions and state your positions.
There are plenty of statements from Jesus in the Gospels that you have to reject to believe He was only a man. It’s not enough, imo, to dismiss all of them by saying I (and billions of others) misinterpret them or the Gospel writers got them all wrong.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneReally!!
I state my positions more than most if not all posters on this forum.
Originally posted by @divegeesterPut the statement back in context.
Really!!
You happy to answer my questions then are you?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou’ve seen my questions to you, are you prepared to answer them?
Put the statement back in context.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneGreat!
I state my positions more than most if not all posters on this forum.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWhen you find the intelligence, reread what I've already written.
Great!
'On what basis do you attribute the words spoken by Jesus as genuine, and other parts of the Bible as untrue?'
Originally posted by @thinkofoneNothing you're written answers the question, 'On what basis do you attribute the words spoken by Jesus as genuine, and other parts of the Bible as untrue?'
When you find the intelligence, reread what I've already written.
You could even start with what I've written on this page.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeEvidently you were never in any real danger of being the sharpest person in school.
Nothing you're written answers the question, 'On what basis do you attribute the words spoken by Jesus as genuine, and other parts of the Bible as untrue?'
For someone who says 'I state my positions more than most if not all posters on this forum,' you're not very forthcoming.