Originally posted by LemonJelloVery true. Don't forget that grounding those fine lines of reason is a seamless two-way logical connection:
the general defenses 'goddunnit' and 'the bible is right because it is the bible' can be used until you are blue in the face;
1) The Bible is true because it is the word of the Living God
2) God is real because the Bible says so
I believe it is not the bible itself so many hate, but rather the church and/or the self labeled followers of the bible. Not necessarily simply upon that premise itself, but rather it is the actions of a few that give the label a bad rep.
I think most Christians will agree that they have met their share of other self proclaimed Christians whose beliefs are fundamentally different from one another, in nearly irreconcilable ways.
Originally posted by checkbaitorYour thread title is absurd; many people consider the Bible to be irrelevant today and ignore it, that's a far cry from hatred.
Nineteenth century writer H.L. Hastings once forcibly illustrated the unique way in which the Bible has withstood the attacks of skepticism:
"Infidels of eighteen hundred years have been refuting and overthrowing this book, and yet it stands today as solid rock. Its circulation increases, and it is more loved and cherished and read today than ever be ...[text shortened]... on every chapter, line and tenet? The Bible is still loved by millions, and studied by millions.
Originally posted by telerionindeed...makes for a well-rounded argument.
Very true. Don't forget that grounding those fine lines of reason is a seamless two-way logical connection:
1) The Bible is true because it is the word of the Living God
2) God is real because the Bible says so
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Originally posted by PhlabibitChrist has a greater cross to bear than that wooden one, He has to carry that old uninspired, man-written testament on His back too. It's almost like He wasted his time , since "christians" have ignored His words and speak mostly in platitudes about a stone-age Ox-Goad god who's actions cannot be reconciled with any meaning of the word "good". god of love? Bo Diddley anyone?
I'm sure he read all the verses he was told to read.
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Somehow we are suppose to owe allegiance to a stone age god that a book says created us. It would be easier to believe if that god was a bit more accurate in describing "creation" and maybe had been a tad less blood-thirsty.
The only question that remains is: "Was it Paul or the early church fathers that let the Error into Christianity? Paul was a Pharisee and it was devout Pharisee's that had Christ executed for blaspheming the old religion. It seems that being heretics put what the church calls Gnostics puts the Gnostic's in the same boat as the fisherman they followed.
Originally posted by frogstompWhy did Christ quote this "man-written" old testament so extensively?
Christ has a greater cross to bear than that wooden one, He has to carry that old uninspired, man-written testament on His back too. It's almost like He wasted his time , since "christians" have ignored His words and speak mostly in platitudes about a stone-age Ox-Goad god who's actions cannot be reconciled with any meaning of the word " ...[text shortened]... church calls Gnostics puts the Gnostic's in the same boat as the fisherman they followed.