1. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    15 Aug '05 03:44
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    why is that guy selling. a book he clearly aint read?
    I'm sure he read all the verses he was told to read.

    P-
  2. Standard memberno1marauder
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    15 Aug '05 04:11
    Originally posted by Coconut
    Please elaborate. You mean a bunch of guys met together to write it? Otherwise this statement cannot be supported as writings from hundreds of years apart match.
    "Match"; in what way? What writings are "hundreds of years" apart??
  3. Standard membertelerion
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    15 Aug '05 04:25
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    the general defenses 'goddunnit' and 'the bible is right because it is the bible' can be used until you are blue in the face;
    Very true. Don't forget that grounding those fine lines of reason is a seamless two-way logical connection:

    1) The Bible is true because it is the word of the Living God

    2) God is real because the Bible says so

  4. Standard memberOmnislash
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    15 Aug '05 05:16
    I believe it is not the bible itself so many hate, but rather the church and/or the self labeled followers of the bible. Not necessarily simply upon that premise itself, but rather it is the actions of a few that give the label a bad rep.

    I think most Christians will agree that they have met their share of other self proclaimed Christians whose beliefs are fundamentally different from one another, in nearly irreconcilable ways.
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    15 Aug '05 05:53
    Originally posted by checkbaitor
    Nineteenth century writer H.L. Hastings once forcibly illustrated the unique way in which the Bible has withstood the attacks of skepticism:

    "Infidels of eighteen hundred years have been refuting and overthrowing this book, and yet it stands today as solid rock. Its circulation increases, and it is more loved and cherished and read today than ever be ...[text shortened]... on every chapter, line and tenet? The Bible is still loved by millions, and studied by millions.
    Your thread title is absurd; many people consider the Bible to be irrelevant today and ignore it, that's a far cry from hatred.
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    15 Aug '05 05:55
    Originally posted by telerion
    Very true. Don't forget that grounding those fine lines of reason is a seamless two-way logical connection:

    1) The Bible is true because it is the word of the Living God

    2) God is real because the Bible says so

    indeed...makes for a well-rounded argument.
  7. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    15 Aug '05 07:512 edits
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    I'm sure he read all the verses he was told to read.

    P-
    Christ has a greater cross to bear than that wooden one, He has to carry that old uninspired, man-written testament on His back too. It's almost like He wasted his time , since "christians" have ignored His words and speak mostly in platitudes about a stone-age Ox-Goad god who's actions cannot be reconciled with any meaning of the word "good". god of love? Bo Diddley anyone?

    Somehow we are suppose to owe allegiance to a stone age god that a book says created us. It would be easier to believe if that god was a bit more accurate in describing "creation" and maybe had been a tad less blood-thirsty.

    The only question that remains is: "Was it Paul or the early church fathers that let the Error into Christianity? Paul was a Pharisee and it was devout Pharisee's that had Christ executed for blaspheming the old religion. It seems that being heretics put what the church calls Gnostics puts the Gnostic's in the same boat as the fisherman they followed.
  8. Standard memberHalitose
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    15 Aug '05 08:08
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Christ has a greater cross to bear than that wooden one, He has to carry that old uninspired, man-written testament on His back too. It's almost like He wasted his time , since "christians" have ignored His words and speak mostly in platitudes about a stone-age Ox-Goad god who's actions cannot be reconciled with any meaning of the word " ...[text shortened]... church calls Gnostics puts the Gnostic's in the same boat as the fisherman they followed.
    Why did Christ quote this "man-written" old testament so extensively?
  9. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    15 Aug '05 11:36
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Why did Christ quote this "man-written" old testament so extensively?
    Read what He says, not what somebody tells you to think he said.
  10. Standard memberHalitose
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    15 Aug '05 12:20
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Read what He says, not what somebody tells you to think he said.
    I read a lot of quotations from the old-testament. If Christ is quoting from the old testament, doesn't it mean there is some validity in it?
  11. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    15 Aug '05 12:25
    Originally posted by Halitose
    I read a lot of quotations from the old-testament. If Christ is quoting from the old testament, doesn't it mean there is some validity in it?
    He says exactly what he means, nothing more , nothing less
  12. Standard memberHalitose
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    15 Aug '05 12:36
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    He says exactly what he means, nothing more , nothing less
    So are you saying that His use of exact words from the old testament is just coincidence?
  13. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    15 Aug '05 12:39
    Originally posted by Halitose
    So are you saying that His use of exact words from the old testament is just coincidence?
    "Moses gave you that...."

    ?

  14. Standard memberHalitose
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    15 Aug '05 12:401 edit
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    "Moses gave you that...."

    ?

    ???

    I'm not following your train of thought here...
  15. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    15 Aug '05 12:56
    Originally posted by Halitose
    ???

    I'm not following your train of thought here...
    That was part of Christ's message. Why are you puzzled by it?
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