1. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    07 Mar '14 18:03
    Originally posted by sonship
    So says SwissGambit, another empty dying liar.
    We can quibble about 'empty' and 'dying', but I'm not a liar.

    "Why you half-witted, stuck-up, scruffy-looking, Nerf herder!" -Leia
    "Who's scruffy-looking?" -Han Solo
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    08 Mar '14 00:59
    "Who is the liar except he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?" (1 John 2:22)
  3. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    08 Mar '14 03:21
    Originally posted by sonship
    [b] "Who is the liar except he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?" (1 John 2:22) [/b]
    The Anti-Christ? Moi? Why, jay, you flatter me.
  4. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    08 Mar '14 04:40
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Due to who you are in the universe and who God is, you should show
    him deference due Him.
    Kelly
    Why?
    You again fail to explain a bizarre notion.

    "Deference"
  5. Standard memberKellyJay
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    08 Mar '14 13:25
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Why?
    You again fail to explain a bizarre notion.

    "Deference"
    i
    Like I told you earlier, if you don't grasp the notion of respect to those to
    whom it is due you never will. Just as a family member should be shown
    love and respect, as a grandparent so much from all the family members,
    your creator is in a higher position than even a grandparent. If you think
    deference is a bizarre notion, wow.
    Kelly
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    08 Mar '14 14:43
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    If there were a god.
    1. Why should I worship it?
    2. Why would it be bothered?
    To me, worshiping God is not necessarily falling on your face type, rather it is striving to unconditionally love. God and our neighbor. This is what Jesus taught and asked us to do in following Him
  7. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    09 Mar '14 00:22
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Like I told you earlier, if you don't grasp the notion of respect to those to
    whom it is due you never will. Just as a family member should be shown
    love and respect, as a grandparent so much from all the family members,
    your creator is in a higher position than even a grandparent. If you think
    deference is a bizarre notion, wow.
    Kelly
    Respect is earned through actions. Giving respect because one ought leads to all sorts of problems.

    And why would deference follow from respect?

    I certainly do not want nor expect deference or to be worshipped from anyone who respects me.

    Mass murderers and rapists can be grand-parents too ... do they warrant respect?

    Bizarro.
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    09 Mar '14 00:39
    Originally posted by Pudgenik
    To me, worshiping God is not necessarily falling on your face type, rather it is striving to unconditionally love. God and our neighbor. This is what Jesus taught and asked us to do in following Him
    Are you saying you strive to love god?
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    09 Mar '14 01:37
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Respect is earned through actions. Giving respect because one ought leads to all sorts of problems.

    And why would deference follow from respect?

    I certainly do not want nor expect deference or to be worshipped from anyone who respects me.

    Mass murderers and rapists can be grand-parents too ... do they warrant respect?

    Bizarro.
    Yes, respect is earned through actions.
    Creating the universe and everything in it, should earn some respect.
    Holding the universe together by the power of God's Word, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone life, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone everything they need to maintain life, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone the grasp of right and wrong should earn respect.
    Holding everyone accountable for their own actions should earn respect.
    Setting in place all the laws of the universe should earn respect.
    The list can go on and on.
    Knowing that God is King of the universe, the judge of all life, should earn
    Him some respect.
    If you wish to believe none of that matters, that is up to you.
    Kelly
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    09 Mar '14 03:43
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Yes, respect is earned through actions.
    Creating the universe and everything in it, should earn some respect.
    Holding the universe together by the power of God's Word, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone life, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone everything they need to maintain life, should earn respect.
    Giving everyone the grasp of right and wrong s ...[text shortened]... earn
    Him some respect.
    If you wish to believe none of that matters, that is up to you.
    Kelly
    I see you change tack again when you cannot answer my questions.
    Very well - lets take your latest offering.

    Choose any item from your list and persuade me why your god deserves
    respect for it (even though we were originally debating worship ....)
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    09 Mar '14 03:59
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    If there were a god.
    1. Why should I worship it?
    2. Why would it be bothered?
    Worship is reserved for a person you love intensely; human beings are incapable of loving another human being until they know them; without learning God's Word, gratitude and respect and reverential awe and love and worship are impossible.
  12. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Mar '14 05:07
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I see you change tack again when you cannot answer my questions.
    Very well - lets take your latest offering.

    Choose any item from your list and persuade me why your god deserves
    respect for it (even though we were originally debating worship ....)
    It is a simple matter of respectful reverence, if you have neither respect
    or reverence what could I say? I pointed out to you that we react to some
    with love and respect, it does not mean that everyone will.

    You don't seem to care that everyone you care about and your very life
    are all gifts from the God we are talking about. Our lives are short, and
    some times some we care about are only with us for a very short time.
    This just shows us how special life is, how precious it all is! The thing about
    this life it shows us so much, the good the bad!

    What people here seem to do is put the puny meaningless stuff above the
    more important which is our lives. We brought nothing in, we take nothing
    out of this life.

    I do not believe I can with words show what your asking, any more than
    a man born blind can grasp color.
    Kelly
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    09 Mar '14 08:53
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    It is a simple matter of respectful reverence,
    wtf does that mean???
  14. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    09 Mar '14 08:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Our lives are short, and some times some we care about are only with us for a very short time.
    "Short" with respect to what exactly?

    I could equally say our lives are long.
  15. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    09 Mar '14 08:58
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I do not believe I can with words show what your asking, ...
    Kelly
    Cop out!
    This excuse allows anyone to make any outlandish statement and then when challenged to say:
    "I do not believe I can with words show what your asking, ...
    It is for the intellectually weak and morally feeble.
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