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    A question for Christians out there.
    After reading and trying to understand your reasoning, I must ask this question. There's a lot more evidence that the Qu'ran is the exact word of God (your same God) than the Bible. It has lesser inconsistencies, and makes a lot more sense.
    Why don't you accept it? Because you don't like it? Because of cultural reasons?
    The truth is, by your own arguments, you shouldn't have a reason to reject Islam.
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    03 Mar '08 23:36
    Originally posted by serigado
    A question for Christians out there.
    After reading and trying to understand your reasoning, I must ask this question. There's a lot more evidence that the Qu'ran is the exact word of God (your same God) than the Bible. It has lesser inconsistencies, and makes a lot more sense.
    Why don't you accept it? Because you don't like it? Because of cultural reasons?
    The truth is, by your own arguments, you shouldn't have a reason to reject Islam.
    Because the Bible doesn't say "accept Islam".... Duh.......
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    03 Mar '08 23:46
    Originally posted by serigado
    There's a lot more evidence that the Qu'ran is the exact word of God (your same God) than the Bible.
    Um, no. There's exactly the same amount of evidence that the Judeo-Christian Bible and the Muslim Qu'ran are the word of "god".

    That is to say...none at all.
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    03 Mar '08 23:54
    Originally posted by David C
    Um, no. There's exactly the same amount of evidence that the Judeo-Christian Bible and the Muslim Qu'ran are the word of "god".

    That is to say...none at all.
    No. There's an original copy from the Qu'ran, and proof today's copies are exact to the original Muhammed's writings.
    The point is exactly that one. There's nothing to prefer the Bible to the Qu'ran. But at least in the Qu'ran you know for sure it hasn't been tempered.
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    04 Mar '08 00:00
    Originally posted by serigado
    A question for Christians out there.
    After reading and trying to understand your reasoning, I must ask this question. There's a lot more evidence that the Qu'ran is the exact word of God (your same God) than the Bible. It has lesser inconsistencies, and makes a lot more sense.
    Why don't you accept it? Because you don't like it? Because of cultural reasons?
    The truth is, by your own arguments, you shouldn't have a reason to reject Islam.
    OK ... I will get converted right away.
    You happy now ?
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    04 Mar '08 00:06
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    OK ... I will get converted right away.
    You happy now ?
    Yes. At least you are coherent.
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    04 Mar '08 00:36
    Originally posted by serigado
    No. There's an original copy from the Qu'ran, and proof today's copies are exact to the original Muhammed's writings.
    The point is exactly that one. There's nothing to prefer the Bible to the Qu'ran. But at least in the Qu'ran you know for sure it hasn't been tempered.
    I never wondered about whether the Qu'ran is exact to the original Muhammed's writings, as you put it. In fact, I guess I always assumed they were. I also know there are plenty of materials supporting some of the translations of the Bible. That doesn't mean diddly squat. Just because Muhammed wrote it or Paul said it doesn't mean that it's God's word -- exact, paraphrased, or otherwise.
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    04 Mar '08 00:55
    Originally posted by pawnhandler
    I never wondered about whether the Qu'ran is exact to the original Muhammed's writings, as you put it. In fact, I guess I always assumed they were. I also know there are plenty of materials supporting some of the translations of the Bible. That doesn't mean diddly squat. Just because Muhammed wrote it or Paul said it doesn't mean that it's God's word -- exact, paraphrased, or otherwise.
    Yes, I can't agree more with you.
    But my point is: IF you believe the Bible is the word of God, what makes you believe Qu'ran is not the word of God.
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    04 Mar '08 00:59
    Originally posted by serigado
    Yes, I can't agree more with you.
    But my point is: IF you believe the Bible is the word of God, what makes you believe Qu'ran is not the word of God.
    To be perfectly honest, I don't believe either one is "the word of God."
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    04 Mar '08 02:40
    Originally posted by serigado
    No. There's an original copy from the Qu'ran, and proof today's copies are exact to the original Muhammed's writings.
    Muhammad's writings? "Original"? You might want to check in to that a little deeper. Muhammad could neither read nor write, and these "writings" are those of his companions. Just as in Christianity, most of the original transmissions were ostensibly oral.
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    04 Mar '08 03:15
    Originally posted by David C
    Muhammad's writings? "Original"? You might want to check in to that a little deeper. Muhammad could neither read nor write, and these "writings" are those of his companions. Just as in Christianity, most of the original transmissions were ostensibly oral.
    There's no dispute to the originality of the Qu'ran, that's what I mean.
    Supposedly Muhammed memorized all of it, transmitted to his partners, and eventually it was written all at once, with minimal deturpations.
    But that's not the point or discussion in this thread.
    The question is: what's the reason for Christians not accepting what's written there. They base their belief in one book, but what makes them choose one book over the other? Personal taste? Indoctrination? Cultural aspects?
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    04 Mar '08 03:16
    Originally posted by pawnhandler
    To be perfectly honest, I don't believe either one is "the word of God."
    Agreed... but you see my point? There's no objective reason to choose one or the other. But if you chose one, what's the reason to not accept the other?
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    04 Mar '08 03:25
    Originally posted by serigado
    Agreed... but you see my point? There's no objective reason to choose one or the other. But if you chose one, what's the reason to not accept the other?
    I'm wondering how many Muslims think there's no objective reason for not choosing Christianity.
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    04 Mar '08 03:44
    Originally posted by pawnhandler
    I'm wondering how many Muslims think there's no objective reason for not choosing Christianity.
    Islam is an addition to Christianity. They all believe Christ existed...
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    04 Mar '08 04:02
    Originally posted by serigado
    Islam is an addition to Christianity. They all believe Christ existed...
    Yes but they don't believe Christ was the Son of God. They don't believe he died on the cross and don't believe he rose from the dead.
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