Why is Christianity in the US dying

@kellyjay said
Have you been watching Ukraine, the streets of Chicago, New York, and bloodshed worldwide, and do you think I need to say anything disparaging that isn't in the news daily?

Sorry, did I say humans were perfect, that they were not capable of terrible things?

I think you have an unhealthy and unbalanced view of humanity.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Sorry, did I say humans were perfect, that they were not capable of terrible things?

I think you have an unhealthy and unbalanced view of humanity.

I'm not the one with the unhealthy and unbalanced view of humanity; I think we are all the same internally; the world is not filled with good people and in the mix evil ones as if there is a significant distinction. We are all capable of both good and evil the mix is internal to all. We all are capable of both doing right and wrong; because of that, we are not good, and before the God who created the heavens and earth and all that is in them is good, we are in peril.

@kellyjay said
I'm not the one with the unhealthy and unbalanced view of humanity; I think we are all the same internally; the world is not filled with good people and in the mix evil ones as if there is a significant distinction. We are all capable of both good and evil the mix is internal to all. We all are capable of both doing right and wrong; because of that, we are not good, and before the God who created the heavens and earth and all that is in them is good, we are in peril.

You could slice this curdled misanthropy with a knife.

@kellyjay said
I'm not the one with the unhealthy and unbalanced view of humanity; I think we are all the same internally; the world is not filled with good people and in the mix evil ones as if there is a significant distinction. We are all capable of both good and evil the mix is internal to all. We all are capable of both doing right and wrong; because of that, we are not good, and before the God who created the heavens and earth and all that is in them is good, we are in peril.

Yes, you are. God good, humans evil. It is the thinking process of a child.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Yes, you are. God good, humans evil. It is the thinking process of a child.

If you find no fault in man if you think you are good enough, what kind of processing is that?

@fmf said
You could slice this curdled misanthropy with a knife.

Actually, it is because of the love for man that we are given God's grace and mercy, and it is because of that love that each of us should be treated with the utmost love and respect because of the One who laid down His life for us all. Do you see what I believe as an attack on good men by an evil God? If you think there is no fault in you against God and man, well, I can see why you feel repenting and asking God for His forgiveness is a meaningless thing for you; you consider yourself good and owe nothing to no one. Arrogance and pride are very thick with this one.

@kellyjay said
Actually, it is because of the love for man that we are given God's grace and mercy, and it is because of that love that each of us should be treated with the utmost love and respect because of the One who laid down His life for us all.

Your own "love for man" is noticeably limited.

@kellyjay said
Do you see what I believe as an attack on good men by an evil God?

I don't have any belief in "an evil God".

@fmf said
I don't have any belief in "an evil God".

Reality is what you have to worry about, not what you believe.

@kellyjay said
If you think there is no fault in you against God and man, well, I can see why you feel repenting and asking God for His forgiveness is a meaningless thing for you.

[1] I don't believe in your God figure, KellyJay. So, I have not committed any "faults" against him, except in your imagination.

[2] My faults against "man" have either been dealt with, forgiven, forgotten or adjudicated before the courts. There may be some who STILL feel disgruntled about some unresolved thing or other over the last six decades, but I am not aware of them.

[3] That is why I am not "asking God for His forgiveness".

[4] Your notion that I should be asking your God figure for his forgiveness is a meaningless thing for me.

@kellyjay said
Arrogance and pride are very thick with this one.

I am probably less arrogant and less prideful than you.

@fmf said
Your own "love for man" is noticeably limited.

Why, because I'm not blowing smoke up your butt making you think you are a good man in front of an evil God? I'm telling you the truth; even if I get belittled for it, you can say what you will. What you will not be able to say is you were not told.

@kellyjay said
Reality is what you have to worry about, not what you believe.

I am not in the slightest bit worried about the version of "reality" that you describe.

@kellyjay said
Why, because I'm not blowing smoke up your butt making you think you are a good man in front of an evil God?

No. I think your own "love for man" is noticeably limited because of your worldview and your disdain for your fellow human beings.

@kellyjay said
I'm telling you the truth.

I don't think you are telling me the truth, per se, KellyJay. I do think, however, that you are telling me the truth about your personal opinions and beliefs.