Originally posted by jaywill
This reads as rank idiocy to me.
This generation seems so drunk with permissiveness that "righteousness" is to be allowed to do whatever you want.
If you violate the laws of gravity and jump out the window on the fifth floor of a building, do you chid the science teacher ? I mean he personally threatened you that you would fall to the ground and di ...[text shortened]... you also could charge Him with not caring, as I club you over the head and steal your wallot.
Bravo, jaywill, excellent post.
Let's examine your last sentence there.
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Yet if He has no moral law in His creation then you also could charge Him with not caring, as I club you over the head and steal your wallet."
This seems to be the core of the argument of a lot of atheists here, most notably sonhouse. "Since he didn't prevent me from being hurt, either he doesn't exist, or he doesn't care about me." or "Since he's not coming down here and personally correcting our errors to save our dumb asses from worldwide catastrophe, obviously either he doesn't exist or he doesn't care about his creation."
They conveniently forget the second-to-last sentence:
"Had He provided no redemption, then you might say He does not care." They complain that he doesn't care because he doesn't stop bullets or end hunger or prevent global warming, and yet they cannot take the trouble to hold up their end of the bargain, by believing in Him, repenting their sins and asking Him to come into their lives and guide them to Salvation. They conveniently forget the sin part of the equation and expect to be saved with no effort on their part. Ironically, if they could look at this a little more objectively, which they are always exhorting Christians to do, they would possibly see how ridiculous they sound. But they continue with their circular reasoning and blame God for their shortcomings, because it can't possibly be their fault that they are separated from God. And then it's easy to say "well, fine, if he doesn't care, then why should I believe in him?"
It's the conditioning of our times. "Just do it." "It's your world." "It's all about YOU." The media has been bombarding us daily with the idea that we come first, above all else, soaking us in Pride, and leading us by the hand into perdition.