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Why religion is dumb - reason 6 (Wasted Life)

Why religion is dumb - reason 6 (Wasted Life)

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Jealousy makes you want to be God eventhough you are a mortal man.

Wanting to be God makes you a ugly humanist 😉 lol.
Last I checked, you were the one with vain, flimsy dreams of becoming God-like through immortality. "Happiness beyond all comprehension" and other irrational silliness; peace, love, and good hair days for ever and ever and ever and ever. And ever.

I wonder: what makes your rEliGiOn so appealing to so many?

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Originally posted by LemonJello
Last I checked, you were the one with vain, flimsy dreams of becoming God-like through immortality. "Happiness beyond all comprehension" and other irrational silliness; peace, love, and good hair days for ever and ever and ever and ever. And ever.

I wonder: what makes your r[b]E
liGiOn so appealing to so many?[/b]
I was only leaning on Gods promise in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

1 Corinthians 2:9 - But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Nice list. Just wondering why Origen is there, what do he do apart from cutting off his balls?

Edit--T.S. Eliot's best poetry was written before he adopted Christianity.
Just wondering why Origen is there, what do he do apart from cutting off his balls?

http://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htm

I added him for his philosophical ability.
He's definitely not a favourite amongst the Gnostics - hey Frogstomp?

Edit--T.S. Eliot's best poetry was written before he adopted Christianity.

Noted.

P.S. My list is not limited in its scope of "religious" personalities, so I'll be working on adding the likes of Ghandi and the Dalai Lama.

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Originally posted by Halitose


http://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htm

I added him for his philosophical ability.
Ah, Origen--the one who piggy-backed the Trinity onto pre-existing Platonic emanation schemas. And ended up castrating himself. Sounds like a nutjob to me (good company for Nietszche).

In Origen's favour, he "did not believe in the eternal suffering of sinners in hell" and also believed in metempsychosis. Must have been interesting times...

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Originally posted by Halitose
Here's a few names for a starter:


Geoffrey Chaucer
Chaucer was a pornographer:

When April with its sweet showers the drought of March pierces to the root (loose paraphrase)

Do I need to explain the imagery here--wetness and piercing?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
You suck😉
That's a wonderfully Biblical metaphor. Song of Solomon, right?

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Originally posted by Halitose
He's definitely not a favourite amongst the Gnostics - hey Frogstomp?
He's much closer to Gnostic thought than to modern Christianity.

"From Numenius, Origen likely adopted the conception of a "second god" proceeding from a first, ineffable being called the One, "First God," or Father. Numenius referred to this "second god" as Demiurge or craftsman, and taught that he created the cosmos by imitating the intellectual content of the "First God." Origen applied this basic notion to his doctrine of Christ, whom he also called Demiurge (Commentary on John 1.22), and went on to describe Christ as a reflection of the Truth of the Father, stating that compared to human beings Christ is Truth, but compared to the Father He is falsehood (Jerome, Epistle 92, quoting Origen; see also On First Principles 1.2.6). "

a word for frogstomp: ekpurôsis,

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Chaucer was a pornographer.
He was also a public administrator at a time when Christianity was the official religion. Curiously, towards the end of his life, his fear of death led him to recant of writing the Canterbury Tales. Clearly, the inspiration for his writing was not Christian.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So look up the definition of "God" in the dictionary: "A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship"...

The dictionary says it... so it must be true 😛
The key word there is conceived, i.e., the idea of God was conceived by humans.

The dictionary definition only gives the meaning of the word. It's not meant to say whether the concept of God is true or false.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
But you see Christ came to do away with religion and bring a personnal relationship the God.
I can't discuss this further with you until you comprehend the meaning of simple words.

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Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
I can't discuss this further with you until you comprehend the meaning of simple words.
That saying is on a Christian Shirt that I have.

It is because you have not accepted Jesus that is why you are lost in your understanding of this.

http://kerusso.com/

I have the ones called public display and rebel they are on page 5 of T-shirts.

http://kerusso.com/catalog.taf?f=All&parent_id=2&r=2070482735&StartArg1=65

Click on the shirts to read them.

on the back of the rebel one it says, "Jesus went against religion to bring a relationship with God (2 Corinthians 3:13-18)
13not like Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not see the end of the fading splendor.
14 But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.
15 Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their minds;
16 but when a man turns to the Lord the veil is removed.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being changed into his likeness from one degree of glory to another; for this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
Against sin to bring forgiveness ( Colossians 1:14)
14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
His body was placed against the cross to bring Salvation (1 Corinthians 1:18)
18For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Edit: my other shirt says,Public Dispaly of Affection
But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Chaucer was a pornographer:

When April with its sweet showers the drought of March pierces to the root (loose paraphrase)

Do I need to explain the imagery here--wetness and piercing?
lol. There's something for everyone...

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Originally posted by RBHILL
That saying is on a Christian Shirt that I have.
So, even my shirts are going to hell because they are not xtian?

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
So, even my shirts are going to hell because they are not xtian?
Did you look at the website?

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
So, even my shirts are going to hell because they are not xtian?
I see you don't read your Bible, but when you die you go with nothing meaning you take nothing with you.