Originally posted by RBHILLBut the word is unbiblical, as even DJ admits.
The funny thing is that parents tell their Children that hell is a bad word, but I believe that it is not, because you need to tell people about hell so that they will not want to go there.
The way most children use the word "hell," it is a bad word, sort of the way you used the word "Mexican" yesterday.
Originally posted by WulebgrOut of the King James Bible:
But the word is unbiblical, as even DJ admits.
The way most children use the word "hell," it is a bad word, sort of the way you used the word "Mexican" yesterday.
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"hell" was found 12 times in 12 verses.
Matthew 5:22 - But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire.
Matthew 5:29 - If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:30 - And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
Matthew 10:28 - And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 18:9 - And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
Matthew 23:33 - You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
Mark 9:43 - And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
Luke 12:5 - But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear him!
Acts 6:1 - Now in these days when the disciples were increasing in number, the Hellenists murmured against the Hebrews because their widows were neglected in the daily distribution.
Acts 9:29 - preaching boldly in the name of the Lord. And he spoke and disputed against the Hellenists; but they were seeking to kill him.
James 3:6 - And the tongue is a fire. The tongue is an unrighteous world among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the cycle of nature, and set on fire by hell.
2 Peter 2:4 - For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of nether gloom to be kept until the judgment;
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Originally posted by WulebgrRemember what I said about what you want to hear 😉 I'm sorry that was just to prove a point.
Thanks, DJ. It's nice to see a little real information in these forums for a change.
The word "hell" actually appears 23 times in the New Testament!
Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:29 - And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:30 - And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 11:23 - And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Revelation 6:8 - And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Revelation 20:13 - And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:14 - And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 18:9 - And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:33 - Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Mark 9:43 - And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:45 - And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:47 - And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Luke 10:15 - And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.
Luke 12:5 - But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Luke 16:23 - And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Acts 2:27 - Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Acts 2:31 - He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
James 3:6 - And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
EDIT: ARGHH RB YOU BEAT ME TO IT!
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Originally posted by dj2beckerRead up about St. Origen, inventor of the Trinity, who did not believe in hell, and tell me what you think. The link is a few posts back.
I suppose the word "hell" best describes the place that Christ was refering to. If you know what I mean...
Edit: I know you're lazy: http://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htm
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Originally posted by Bosse de Nagelol.
Read up about St. Origen, inventor of the Trinity, who did not believe in hell, and tell me what you think. The link is a few posts back.
Edit: I know you're lazy: http://www.iep.utm.edu/o/origen.htm
I'm actaully writing an exam 2morrow, and I havn't studied for it yet. I'll get back to you 2morrow after my exam. Good night.
Originally posted by RBHILLThank you. That's all I've asked for from you. Support your assertions with rational thought and evidence. Clearly Hell is biblical. Now, explain how an omniscient omnipotent God can permit the existence of evil. Do so rationally.
Out of the King James Bible:
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"hell" was found 12 times in 12 verses.
Matthew 5:22 - But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire.
Matthew 5:29 - If your ri ...[text shortened]... ut cast them into hell and committed them to pits of nether gloom to be kept until the judgment;
Originally posted by RBHILLIt is because you have not accepted English as your language that you refuse understanding of this.
That saying is on a Christian Shirt that I have.
It is because you have not accepted Jesus that is why you are lost in your understanding of this.
http://kerusso.com/
I have the ones called public display and rebel they are on page 5 of T-shirts.
http://kerusso.com/catalog.taf?f=All&parent_id=2&r=2070482735&StartArg1=65
Click on the shirts to r ...[text shortened]...
But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
What I think is most revealing is that not one Christian has discussed the following part of my original post (but thanks to Joe Fist and Umbridge!):
"Imagine if you were an omnipotent teacher and you gave your pupils free reign to go out into the world and do good deeds. You would be very disappointed with those pupils who decided to just stay in the class room and tell you how wonderful you were, and plead with you to make the world outside better! God must shake his head in disappointment at those pathetic fawning weaklings in church trying to suck up their way into heaven."
This could be because none of them has the imagination to do the mental task, which would be true as unimaginative people tend to quote others' work endelessly to make it appear as if they are thoughtful people. (such as the bible - RBHill)
But I believe they have all failed to address this thought experiment for one reason:
They are filled with dread when contemplating the possibility that God may not give a toss about their genuflection and sycophancy, and prefers atheists who just get on with life and improving the cosmos.
Originally posted by howardgeeWhy can't we worship AND get on with improving the cosmos? Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?
What I think is most revealing is that not one Christian has discussed the following part of my original post (but thanks to Joe Fist and Umbridge!):
"Imagine if you were an omnipotent teacher and you gave your pupils free reign to go out into the world and do good deeds. You would be very disappointed with those pupils who decided to just stay in the ...[text shortened]... lection and sycophancy, and prefers atheists who just get on with life and improving the cosmos.
Originally posted by howardgeeI did follow your post in saying that religion is a waste of time and gets you nowhere.
What I think is most revealing is that not one Christian has discussed the following part of my original post (but thanks to Joe Fist and Umbridge!):
"Imagine if you were an omnipotent teacher and you gave your pupils free reign to go out into the world and do good deeds. You would be very disappointed with those pupils who decided to just stay in the ...[text shortened]... lection and sycophancy, and prefers atheists who just get on with life and improving the cosmos.