Originally posted by @js357You are without a doubt a creature of culture, but sin is done by individuals. Even if you
Cultural evolution theory could.
are in a crowd all acting out, whatever the crowd is doing, if you join in, it is still your
actions, the crowd isn’t an excuse. The way you view the world is also going to be a
personal thing, the pressures of culture might be at play in molding your views, but that
too should let you know if God is good and we are not, then none of our cultures are
going to reflect God, they will be nothing more than the peer pressure of neighbors,
friends and family all of which share the same faults as the rest of mankind. So again, if
God is good and we are not, our ability to grasp what He is can only be bridged by Him
reaching to us, it will not be done by just our efforts reaching to Him.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayI am giving you my perspective as "a once Christian". That's exactly what you are getting. I am a non-believer. If you want to know what Christians think, then ask Christians. From me, what you get is viewpoint as "a once Christian".
I have a question about the perspective of a once Christian, so I asked it, which is what I
am doing.
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Originally posted by @kellyjayApart from torturing all the Jewish victims and survivors of the Holocaust for eternity for their lack of belief (having the wrong religion), and giving everlasting life to the Nazis who sincerely believed that they could simply "give their guilt to Jesus", presumably on their deathbeds was Ok too, what action did God take against "evil" of the Holocaust? I am not playing the Hitler Card here; you brought up the Nazis.
I have a question about the perspective of a once Christian, so I asked it, which is what I
am doing. Shame you don't honor mine as I have answered yours.
Originally posted by @fmfFine that is all I'm asking for, from a "once Christian" what was the gospel when you once
I am giving you my perspective as "a once Christian". That's exactly what you are getting. I am a non-believer. If you want to know what Christians think, then ask Christians. From me, what you get is viewpoint as "a once Christian".
believed in it?
Originally posted by @fmfFine, just as long as you realize that false testimonies about how one use to be a disciple of Christ is also "water off a ducks back" to some disciples of Jesus now.
I post here as an agnostic atheist. Just go with the notion that I am a liar, KellyJay. It's water off a duck's back to me. Ask Christians about the Gospel.
Originally posted by @sonshipYou have called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. KellyJay has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. dj2becker has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. robbie carrobie frequently called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. Eladar has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. josephw has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. Romans1009 called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. If "some disciples of Jesus now" feel it's important to them to call me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian - in some cases over and over again - then I'm OK with it.
Fine, just as long as you realize that false testimonies about how one use to be a disciple of Christ is also "water off a ducks back" to some disciples of Jesus now.
Originally posted by @kellyjayEvolution has facilitated your ability to sin, not to mention intellectualize a divine being to sin against.
You are without a doubt a creature of culture, but sin is done by individuals. Even if you
are in a crowd all acting out, whatever the crowd is doing, if you join in, it is still your
actions, the crowd isn’t an excuse. The way you view the world is also going to be a
personal thing, the pressures of culture might be at play in molding your views, but t ...[text shortened]... only be bridged by Him
reaching to us, it will not be done by just our efforts reaching to Him.
Originally posted by @fmfYour existence is problematic for Christians.
You have called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. KellyJay has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. dj2becker has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. robbie carrobie frequently called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. Eladar has called me a liar for saying I used to be a Christian. josephw has called ...[text shortened]... r for saying I used to be a Christian - in some cases over and over again - then I'm OK with it.
As a lifelong atheist, my own 'rejection' of God can be easily dismissed as one of ignorance, resentment etc. You, however, have 'known' their God and still walked away. The easiest/laziest response therefore is to deny you were ever a Christian.
It's very disappointing.