will gays who dont commit sodomey go to hell?

I certanly hope not.

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
I certanly hope not.

Don't you understand that it is not by works or being Good that gets you to heaven.

If the gays repent of their sins and turn from their wicked ways they will go to heaven.

Originally posted by RBHILL
Don't you understand that it is not by works or being Good that gets you to heaven.

If the gays repent of their sins and turn from their wicked ways they will go to heaven.

But will they need to bother if they dont commit sodemy?

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
But will they need to bother if they dont commit sodemy?

What do you mean by bother?

Originally posted by RBHILL
What do you mean by bother?

is there any need to repent for being gay if you dont commit sodemy?

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
But will they need to bother if they dont commit sodemy?

Just by saying "But will they..." shows you buy into the hell and heaven thing. Its too bad this monsterous lie called heaven and hell has lasted so long. But hey, christianity is based at its core on lies and deceptions so what else is new.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Just by saying "But will they..." shows you buy into the hell and heaven thing. Its too bad this monsterous lie called heaven and hell has lasted so long. But hey, christianity is based at its core on lies and deceptions so what else is new.

Its hypethetical. We cant prove heaven and hell dosent exist so for this argument were saying hypethitacly it does.

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
is there any need to repent for being gay if you dont commit sodemy?

The lustful thoughs.

But they still have other sin in their lives.

Examples, lying, cheating, rejecting Christ is a sin.

Originally posted by RBHILL
The lustful thoughs.

But they still have other sin in their lives.

Examples, lying, cheating, rejecting Christ is a sin.

But what if they dont. Is being gay itself a sin if u dont commit sodemy.

Plus what if a child was created by science(the winner remember) therefore was not "born" and never commited a sin. He has no need to repent.

Originally posted by RBHILL
The lustful thoughs.

But they still have other sin in their lives.

Examples, lying, cheating, rejecting Christ is a sin.

Can I take it from this that you think that gay men have more lustful thoughts than hetero ones? And that gay men are more likely to lie & cheat than hetero men? From comments like these one could be lead to believe that your view of homosexuals is that they are all snarling sex maniacs, inherantly evil with substandard or no morals. Are you this blinded in your views?

Even your last point - how about gays who accept Christ? In fact, this is one of the main reason I know why gay men would abstain from gay relationships, esp. sodomy. Then surely their only sin would be being gay, something that even as the debate still rages between homosexuality being inherant or learnt it is pretty widely accepted that it's not a chosen behaviour. So they are damned for something they have no control over, despite doing everything in their power that they can (ie. abstaining from gay relationships). Sounds like a pretty raw deal from a fair & loving god to me.

Originally posted by RBHILL
Don't you understand that it is not by works or being Good that gets you to heaven.

If the gays repent of their sins and turn from their wicked ways they will go to heaven.

I thought you could sin all you want once you're a Born-Again Believer and God forgives all your sins? So, gay Born Agains could sodomize 3 year olds (as could non-gay Born Agains) and it wouldn't matter one bit: they'd still be right up there with the super-righteous like RBHILL.

Originally posted by belgianfreak
Can I take it from this that you think that gay men have more lustful thoughts than hetero ones? And that gay men are more likely to lie & cheat than hetero men? From comments like these one could be lead to believe that your view of homosexuals is that they are all snarling sex maniacs, inherantly evil with substandard or no morals. Are you this blinde staining from gay relationships). Sounds like a pretty raw deal from a fair & loving god to me.

Let's remember that god creates gay penguins (http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/591.asp), obviously gay people are just the next step. Not their fault they're gay - it's gods fault. Since god made them that way, then, well, i don't suppose he has any right to complain about it.

I think you're safe, Brother!

Originally posted by RBHILL
The lustful thoughs.

But they still have other sin in their lives.

Examples, lying, cheating, rejecting Christ is a sin.

That's not the question Arby Hill.

If a homosexual male lies and cheats, then he should repent of lying and cheating, just as a heterosexual male who lies and cheats should repent.

On these boards you have repeated insulted and degraded those who do not think as you do. When a member (xian or not) rebukes you for being an embarrassment to the cross, you quip that you are "not perfect, just redeemed." You have even admitted that you premeditate to sin and run behind the skirt-tails of Christ's forgiveness later.

The ironic thing is that if your "willfully sin with impunity" doctrine is true, then the following scenario is just as valid. A homosexual male could repent of his sins and ask Jesus into his heart, thus he is saved by faith. Then he could premeditatedly go out and have wild anal sex with 17 young strapping studs. He then could immediately appeal to the Blood of Christ for the cleansing of his sin. If some one saw him later and rebuked him for engaging in sodomy, he could just say, "I'm not perfect, just redeemed."

😉

However he runs the risk of getting killed before he repents.

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
However he runs the risk of getting killed before he repents.

don't we all when we cross the road though?