23 Jul 14
We turn now to II Corinthians 3:17,18, keeping in mind that we are observing how the risen and ascended Lord Jesus is one with, and manifested by, the Spirit from Pentecost onwards: “Now the Lord (who is the Lord? Look at 4:5 – “we preach Christ Jesus as Lord.” ) … “Now the Lord (Jesus Christ) is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord (Jesus Christ) is, there is liberty. But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed in the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord (Jesus Christ), the Spirit.” Is it not evident that Paul is equating the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit? I do not see how we can come to any other conclusion if we understand the Triune God, the distinctive three-in-oneness of the Christian understanding of God. — James A. Fowler
23 Jul 14
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Originally posted by Kevin Lee PoracanRespect ? We have already shown you too much respect. You come here, not to play chess but instead to attempt to indoctrinate people who do not agree with your cult doctrine. You flood the forum with your cut and pastes that nobody reads neither care to discuss. You have no respect for anybody.
Respect please......
23 Jul 14
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Originally posted by Rajk999ok I'll chess for a while. Why are you so bothered by that?
Respect ? We have already shown you too much respect. You come here, not to play chess but instead to attempt to indoctrinate people who do not agree with your cult doctrine. You flood the forum with your cut and pastes that nobody reads neither care to discuss. You have no respect for anybody.
23 Jul 14
Originally posted by Kevin Lee PoracanI agree with Rajk - not to say that it is necesarrily "utter garbage", but nobody will wade through page after page after page of quotations and cut&paste stuff.
Respect please......
I see you are new her, just joined. If you have something to say, make your point short and sweet, and maybe somebody will take you seriously and respond.
Oh, and btw, it wouldn't be a bad idea just to introduce yourself briefly...
23 Jul 14
Originally posted by CalJustBecause I'm a Filipino it would be difficult for me how I interact with Americans or whatsoever. Come on guys, I said the very beginning.
I agree with Rajk - not to say that it is necesarrily "utter garbage", but nobody will wade through page after page after page of quotations and cut&paste stuff.
I see you are new her, just joined. If you have something to say, make your point short and sweet, and maybe somebody will take you seriously and respond.
Oh, and btw, it wouldn't be a bad idea just to introduce yourself briefly...
23 Jul 14
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Originally posted by Rajk999Ok I'm sorry for that. But how can I tolerate people who just labeled us as a cult? Am I not bothered by that? Of course not, if I were in Chine I pretty sure be severely persecuted by the Chinese Government. One of our relatives were somehow separated themselves from us because of the word "cult"!
Im bothered because you come across as an arrogant prick, just like your friend sonship. Show some humility and people might tolerate you.
23 Jul 14
Originally posted by Kevin Lee PoracanSpend less time talking about a man or men [Lees or Nees etc] and more time discussing the Bible and maybe people would stop with the 'cult' label. You are in a cult and dont recognise it.
Ok I'm sorry for that. But how can I tolerate people who just labeled us as a cult? Am I not bothered by that? Of course not, if I were in Chine I pretty sure be severely persecuted by the Chinese Government. One of our relatives were somehow separated themselves from us because of the word "cult"!
23 Jul 14
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Originally posted by Rajk999I'm trying to convince people that we are not a cult. If a certain JW would tell me that I'm a cultist. I wouldn't react that he belongs also to a cult group. But to explain him. And I don't assert or believe that they are a cult. How many innocent saints out there are corrupted by false accusations posted on the internet? How many of them are affected and thereby resulting in confusion and even family broken? Who's in charge of this?
Bull$$hitt. How is it that you are interacting now pal ?
23 Jul 14
Originally posted by Kevin Lee PoracanFoolish people place themselves in that position. First you do not know who are saints and who are not. Are you God or Jesus Christ? Dont claim to know such things. It is a sign of your arrogance.
I'm trying to convince people that we are not a cult. If a certain JW would tell me that I'm a cultist. I wouldn't react that he belongs also to a cult group. But to explain him. How many innocent saints out there are corrupted by false accusation posted on the internet. How many of them are affected and thereby resulting in confusion and even family broken?
It is entirely possible to follow the teachings of Christ without being called a cult. You and your sect follow the specific teachings of man and you constantly refer to him to the point of idolizing him. In fact that man almost replaces Christ for you. The JWs do a similar thing with Charles Russel and the Watch Tower Org.
People who end up being persecuted for following Christ in this day and age of religious tolerance must be doing something very stupid. All Christ ask of us is to love your neighbour as yourself and that is proof that you love God as well. No country/town/village/people will persucute someone for showing love to their fellow men.
Having seen how sonship and you operate I can well understand how and why you get persecuted and it has nothing to do with following Christ.
23 Jul 14
Originally posted by Rajk999We care for the Body and for the Body. That is why!
Foolish people place themselves in that position. First you do not know who are saints and who are not. Are you God or Jesus Christ? Dont claim to know such things. It is a sign of your arrogance.
It is entirely possible to follow the teachings of Christ without being called a cult. You and your sect follow the specific teachings of man and you constantly ...[text shortened]... n well understand how and why you get persecuted and it has nothing to do with following Christ.