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Originally posted by @thinkofone
Did you see my response to your post about "transformation"? I was unsure about what you meant with several of your questions, so instead of trying to get clarification for each one I opted to give you a better idea of the relationship between "transformation" and "being made free from committing sin".
If you still have questions just ask. Hopefully m ...[text shortened]... ng of the perversion of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry that you have embraced.
More aptly known as my lack of understanding of the perversion of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry that you have embraced.
I'll take a look at your answer. Did you .. clarify ... when the ministry of Jesus ended, given your phrase "during His ministry" ?
Now your other phrase "perversion of the gospel".
There are 21 chapters to the Gospel of John. Which one of these chapters represent your "perversion of the gospel" ?
Give the numbers of those chapters or the sections which definitely constitute your "perversion of the gospel".
I know this may be much work. But just three of your strongest examples will give me an idea your view.
You can start with chapters 18 through 21. That should be manageable.
Originally posted by @sonshipJaywill, when I was speaking of "perversion" it was in reference to the understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry that you have embraced.More aptly known as my lack of understanding of the perversion of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry that you have embraced.
I'll take a look at your answer. Did you .. clarify ... when the ministry of Jesus ended, given your phrase "during His ministry" ?
Now your other phrase "perversion of the gospel".
There are [b]2 ...[text shortened]... an idea your view.
You can start with [b]chapters 18 through 21. That should be manageable.[/b]
In other words, you've embraced a perversion of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. It is of this that I lack understanding.
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou can still answer the questions about what I READ in the New Testament Gospels.
Jaywill, when I was speaking of "perversion" it was in reference to the understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry that you have embraced.
In other words, you've embraced a perversion of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. It is of this that I lack understanding.
Where is the written PERVERSION of the Gospel found in the Gospel of John after chapter 17 ?
Where is the written PERVERSION of the Gospel found written in the New Testament document of Matthew after, say, chapter 26?
is the PEVERSION of the understanding of the Gospel an actual part of the written document of the Gospel of Luke in chapters 22 and beyond ?
My understanding is based on the TEXT of the New Testament.
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Originally posted by @sonshipOkay I'll try again.
You can still answer the questions about what I READ in the New Testament Gospels.
Where is the written PERVERSION of the Gospel found in the [b]Gospel of John after chapter 17 ?
Where is the written PERVERSION of the Gospel found written in the New Testament document of Matthew after, say, chapter 26?
is the PEVERSION of the understan ...[text shortened]... [/b] in chapters 22 and beyond ?
My understanding is based on the TEXT of the New Testament.[/b]
There is a perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. You have embraced that perverted understanding. I lack understanding of that perverted understanding.
Understand now? Your questions are not applicable.
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Originally posted by @thinkofone
have no meaning.[/b]
Okay I'll try again.
I doubt that you'll be more successful if you intend to evade the issue.
There is a perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
Did the writer of the Gospel of Luke WRITE his perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus?
If so in what chapters?
You have embraced that perverted understanding. I lack understanding of that perverted understanding.
if you do not know the Lord Jesus and claim to be His follower, it is YOU who have embraced a perversion of the gospel.
Now, in which chapters was the perverted understanding of the writer of the Gospel according to Matthew written into the NT document?
Was chapter 28 a part of the writer's perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus?
Understand now? Your questions have no meaning.
You mean you have no intention to honestly admit that what you READ in the New Testament Matthew, Mark, Luke, John are lies somewhere.
Or should I take it that there are then NO perversions of the Gospel actually written in the four Gospel accounts?
Originally posted by @sonshipJaywill. you misunderstood what I originally wrote. I've been trying to correct that misunderstand by rephrasing. Seems you're completely in the weeds now.Okay I'll try again.
I doubt that you'll be more successful if you intend to evade the issue.
There is a perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
Did the writer of the [b]Gospel of Luke WRITE his perverted understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus?
If so in what cha ...[text shortened]... hen NO perversions of the Gospel actually written in the four Gospel accounts.[/b]
It really wan't all that important in the first place. I was just poking fun at your understanding of the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
Originally posted by @romans1009You are trying to intimdate with capital letters. If you dont know what righteousness means then you dont know. Jesus could explain it and you would still question.Bro ..
<<<Rajk999’s position that he has repeatedly consistently:
'Jesus said so. Do good works, live righteously and you will enter the Kingdom of God.'>>>>
Right, but he’s added a few since then. And he has decided not to explain or refute words from Jesus Christ that do not agree at all with the false doctrine of salvation by works but instead speak of salvation by faith in Him.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneSimple as eh? Sounds about right. Now for the fine tuning 🙂
Even with a really simple construct, Romans1009 cannot see, hear nor understand what Jesus is saying:
[quote]John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. ...[text shortened]... o the words Jesus is speaking. Romans1009 cannot see, hear nor understand what Jesus is saying.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelWhat fine tuning do you have in mind?
Simple as eh? Sounds about right. Now for the fine tuning 🙂
Originally posted by @thinkofonethe universe will provide. now that you know you cant be let down again. only you can let you down/ I had a crappy day the other day, i was still good but something set me off. I spent several hours getting my mojo back. I didin't blame anyone. Thats just me though.
What fine tuning do you have in mind?
there will be several key points i will elucidate on in the coming weeks. 😉 happy days!!
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelNot sure, but this might be applicable:
the universe will provide. now that you know you cant be let down again. only you can let you down/ I had a crappy day the other day, i was still good but something set me off. I spent several hours getting my mojo back. I didin't blame anyone. Thats just me though.
there will be several key points i will elucidate on in the coming weeks. 😉 happy days!!
Matthew 6
25“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26“Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? 27“And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life? 28“And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin, 29yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these. 30“But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! 31“Do not worry then, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear for clothing?’ 32“For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33“But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. 34“So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneI suggest you look into a mirror daily if you dont already. After you see past the ugly guy looking back (not how the world sees you) , you will start to see all sorts of things in yourself. your soul will compensate. you can see the real you. beaming!!
What fine tuning do you have in mind?
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Originally posted by @thinkofoneyep, for sure man. this is my life now edit: btw I thought i was replying to sonship but i'll keep the same response
Not sure, but this might be applicable:
Matthew 6
25“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26“Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather in ...[text shortened]... worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
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Originally posted by @karoly-aczelHow could have it been sonship? He almost always takes individual verses out of context from disparate sources, cobbles them together with a narrative of his own creation. It allows him to pretend that the Bible supports his beliefs.
yep, for sure man. this is my life now edit: btw I thought i was replying to sonship but i'll keep the same response
BTW, what did you do for someone to thumb down all your posts regardless of content?