@ghost-of-a-duke saidEach and every topic should be looked at as something unique not much different than how we should address people. We are after all individuals independent from one another even if we share some characteristics common that doesn’t remove our individuality. If we know that within the universe there are some we call gods who had their beginnings and offspring that makes them apart from the one who created the universe and all within it. If the world’s gods have their full existence in the universe then they are not much different than anything else in it in that respect.
Is it just your particular God that should be taken seriously and set apart from other human imaginings? What about Shiva or Zeus? What about Allah or Horus?
@kellyjay saidThat doesn't really answer the question I put to you. Try and answer more distinctly.
Each and every topic should be looked at as something unique not much different than how we should address people. We are after all individuals independent from one another even if we share some characteristics common that doesn’t remove our individuality. If we know that within the universe there are some we call gods who had their beginnings and offspring that makes them ...[text shortened]... existence in the universe then they are not much different than anything else in it in that respect.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYour question assumes that the God I believe in is an imaginary God built into your question, that is again assuming a truth before the discussion even starts. A priori denial is where you begin even in your conversation not examining each topic without bias before the discussion begins.
That doesn't really answer the question I put to you. Try and answer more distinctly.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAny god whose beginning is out of anything where they had a beginning the God of scripture has no beginning and doesn’t improve but is forever the same not modifiable due to anything.
That doesn't really answer the question I put to you. Try and answer more distinctly.
@kellyjay saidNo, I am asking why your particular flavour of god should be afforded more credibility than gods of other religions?
Your question assumes that the God I believe in is an imaginary God built into your question, that is again assuming a truth before the discussion even starts. A priori denial is where you begin even in your conversation not examining each topic without bias before the discussion begins.
@kellyjay saidIt's called humor Kelly.
There is hardly anything that "all anyone does that" is not the point. If you have reasons to reject evidence, that then flows from reason that is one thing; however, if it's to reject a prior then the rejects come first, then reasons are not required. Rejecting evidence or questions calling them unimportant because of an already-held belief system without examination is b ...[text shortened]... ason with someone who holds a view that is not built on reason only a stance due to presuppositions.
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All imaginary things are equal, they are simply imaginary nothing of substance.
Then we're in complete agreement, that the entity you profess to believe in is as imaginary as tooth fairies and Santa Claus. Nothing with substance or objective reality answers to any of them. The only relevant difference between them is what humans do with or in the name of their imaginary entities. So, I repeat, no one was ever burnt at the stake over tooth fairies, but many millions of people were tortured to death by people who believed in your god. It is not so very long ago that people were executed in Salem Mass. for witchcraft, an imaginary evil. Pfui.
@moonbus saidYes, before entering into a discussion you have already made up your mind, so there is no reasoning with you since before any discussion your mind is already made up.
@KellyJay
All imaginary things are equal, they are simply imaginary nothing of substance.
Then we're in complete agreement, that the entity you profess to believe in is as imaginary as tooth fairies and Santa Claus. Nothing with substance or objective reality answers to any of them. The only relevant difference between them is what humans do with or in the name ...[text shortened]... t so very long ago that people were executed in Salem Mass. for witchcraft, an imaginary evil. Pfui.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidLowestoft is imaginary, so, no harm done.
Well, there was that one chap in Lowestoft.
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@kellyjay saidI looked at the evidence and considered the arguments. Then I made up my mind. Present a better argument or more compelling evidence, and I'll reconsider. Can you say the same? I mean, of course, are you really prepared to abandon Christianity if, for example, Jesus's bones were discovered by archaeologists and there were no doubt they were Jesus's bones?
Yes, before entering into a discussion you have already made up your mind, so there is no reasoning with you since before any discussion your mind is already made up.
@kellyjay saidThis accusation doesn't fly on a forum full of adults that have debated in Spirituality for many years.
Your question assumes that the God I believe in is an imaginary God built into your question, that is again assuming a truth before the discussion even starts. A priori denial is where you begin even in your conversation not examining each topic without bias before the discussion begins.
Maybe you could've used that line of thinking back when RHP was first created by not now in a forum where all the posters are quite familiar with everyone's beliefs and opinions after hundreds or possibly thousands of posts exchanged.
I'm quite sure you don't have any arguments that haven't been posted many times before in favor of your particular god.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAnd you keep ignoring my answer, gods who were created in the universe do not compare to the one who created the universe and all in it.
No, I am asking why your particular flavour of god should be afforded more credibility than gods of other religions?
@kellyjay saidBut isn't this assertion based on the fact that your mind "is already made up"... something you seem to dismiss with a broad brush EXCEPT when it is YOU who has already made his mind up?
And you keep ignoring my answer, gods who were created in the universe do not compare to the one who created the universe and all in it.